New Job Centre signing system?

MoodyMand45

Told yesterday by Jobcentre that next time it will be different with a new signing system; instead of seeing a person i will be seated at a computer along with ten other people and i must have my Indeed.co.uk sign-in details to hand!
Very vague explanation given about this but despite telling them Indeed only accounts for a small section of my applications i am told they only want my Indeed log-in details and no other accounts.  
Anyone heard of this before?

Spender£

They want your Indeed details to sanction you, it is one of the latest UC tricks to increase the number of sanctions, the fact they are not interested in the accounts you use mostly for job search is suspicious, i would refuse to hand over any Information, as long as you can prove your Job Search you should be safe.

MoodyMand45

Spender£ said:

They want your Indeed details to sanction you, it is one of the latest UC tricks to increase the number of sanctions, the fact they are not interested in the accounts you use mostly for job search is suspicious, i would refuse to hand over any Information, as long as you can prove your Job Search you should be safe.

Surely they would need to have a clause in the Terms and Conditions to say jobseekers need to apply for so many jobs through Indeed or they they could be sanctioned.
I always arrive with evidence printed and on my phone of jobs i have recently applied for, I don't know how upon seeing this the staff member could sanction me for not applying through Indeed.
Even if they issue a sanction i would eventually get it overturned once an outside adjudicator sees the evidence complete with dates etc.

Brie

Seems ridiculous considering there are still a lot of firms that like you to apply directly.  I can only think that there must be some data protection exemption that allows them to see what's actually happening to your applications in Indeed. 

And frankly Indeed is a pretty garbage site in any case.  I've been trying to use it but it consistently shows me jobs miles and miles away.   One day there was one in Glasgow and another in Ohio!!!  And yes I do have a filter for X miles from my address.

MoodyMand45

Brie said:

Seems ridiculous considering there are still a lot of firms that like you to apply directly.  I can only think that there must be some data protection exemption that allows them to see what's actually happening to your applications in Indeed. 

And frankly Indeed is a pretty garbage site in any case.  I've been trying to use it but it consistently shows me jobs miles and miles away.   One day there was one in Glasgow and another in Ohio!!!  And yes I do have a filter for X miles from my address.

Absolutely, i used to think it was more of a job search link website which took you to the company websites!

Brie

And I would want to know how this works.....i will be seated at a computer along with ten other people

So you are there and are logging in with 10 others looking on?  Seeing how you log in, your username, password etc?  I'd object if that was the case.

MoodyMand45

Brie said:

And I would want to know how this works.....i will be seated at a computer along with ten other people

So you are there and are logging in with 10 others looking on?  Seeing how you log in, your username, password etc?  I'd object if that was the case.

From my experience this would not surprise me at all, i received a benefit details claim letter from them last week and the envelope was not even sealed down it had my NI number and full address, i could tell that it was not ripped just simply not sealed down at the DWP end.
If the staff tell me to log-in to Indeed with ten people watching i think I'll have too refuse and take the punishment, i hear people giving out personal Information in this jobcentre quite often and they are forced to do this next to seated waiting areas, it is a ID fraudsters paradise!

Robbie64

I don't think the DWP can force you to reveal your login details. This seems like a return to what some DWP staff were trying to get claimants to do when that awful Universal Jobmatch, or whatever it was called, was introduced years ago. The one that IDS called "a game changer" but which was abandoned in the end because it was rubbish. Some staff were making claimants give their login details by threatening to sanction them.

Why don't the DWP want claimants to use their own Find A Job website? Do they think that is rubbish too?

huckster

What does it state in your claimant commitment ?

Job Centres don't normally tell you to use a particular job search site.  If you told them you used Indeed and you accepted commitments saying you were using Indeed, then it is quite reasonable to ask you to show that you are using Indeed as you stated to apply for jobs.

I suspect most jobseekers say they use Indeed as it appears to be one of the most popular sites.  Having seen the number of applications it generates in an employers recruitment office, if people are not applying for jobs within say 4 days max of the jobs being advertised, then they may find employers do not respond.  Enough applications are received in the first few days to find suitable candidates and the rest are held on file just in case.

tomtom256

Spender£ said:

They want your Indeed details to sanction you, it is one of the latest UC tricks to increase the number of sanctions, the fact they are not interested in the accounts you use mostly for job search is suspicious, i would refuse to hand over any Information, as long as you can prove your Job Search you should be safe.

Can you back up this nonsense about being used to sanction you, with any evidence?
The jobcentre cannot force you to use any jobsite or request access to any of your jobsite accounts. In the same way they cannot ask you for any of your usernames or passwords.
They can also only sanction you if you don't meet anything on your claimant commitment or failt to comply or participate or fail to attend an appointment without good reason.

I know some jobcentre sites will be doing a group signing session, with a view to helping claimants to jobsearch, I would presume OP is on JSA (IB) and not new style, as they are doing this to try and push the last JSA (IB) remainers onto UC.

yksi

People have really jumped to conclusions here. Have you considered that perhaps all ten of you will be attending a Zoom workshop which might include you in using Indeed?

I had to attend a very pointless one which included how to make a CV using MS Word, when it was clear that most of the "class" could barely even figure out how Zoom worked.