Employed Daughter - showing as not employed on the Government Tax website
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My daughter has a part-time job (she is 17, 18 early next year) in a cafe in our city.
She has worked there for about a year and really enjoys it, the owners are a bit hopeless but it is very profitable. She has always waited ages for payslips (I know this is illegal and she is entitled to receive a payslip on or before her normal pay day) but has eventually got them. My wife and I try to let her solve these sorts of problems herself to help her gain experience etc. and she is really good at sticking up for herself.
However, she now hasn't got a payslip since April (surprise surprise, just before tax year end). She has had numerous excuses as to why they haven't been printed, but after three months of no payslips she has asked us for help.
I have emailed her employer but not had a response though she has spoken to my daughter and is not happy that we sent the email. I have been trying to contact her on her mobile and the next step was for me to visit the shop with my daughter and confront her.
My daughter used to have a login for her personal tax but the way she verified herself was discontinued and it was impossible to provide the information that was requested to verfiy herself. We've checked again this morning and she can now use her passport and driving licence to verifiy herself so we can look at her personal tax record.
It shows that her employment ended with the company on 1st April 2022, which was a bit shocking but not surprising given the lack of payslips and pathetic excuses. It sounds very dodgy and I wondered if anyone had had experience of this before? Is it some kind of tax fiddle? I would really like some advice as to what her next steps are, i.e. does she report this to the HMRC?
Thanks in advance
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How much is your daughter earning and is she paid the correct amount, despite the lack of a payslip? If the answer is 'yes' to both of these, and she really enjoys the job, is it worth making such a fuss?
Does your daughter have any reason to believe that she won’t be paid what is owed this week given that she has always been paid up till now? How are the hours that she works tracked in case of any dispute? Is she paid directly into her bank account?
Your daughter may have to accept that this is how the company operates. Provided she is paid for the hours she has worked, she has to decide if the lack of payslips is enough to start questioning and cause aggravation. I agree it is wrong, but too much prodding the management could result in your daughter losing her job and the company employing someone who isn't questioning them in this area.
As for letting things just continue on the basis that she's been paid - well is that ok if they aren't actually paying the tax & NI to HMRC?? Even if it's for other and not for her.
I hope it's a momentary blip - maybe the person that does the payroll/banking/accounts has been off sick or on holiday or....??
2023 £1 a day £54.26/365
If she's paid weekly, she would pay national insurance on £400 earnings.
I think ACAS may be able to help?
She won't be getting months or years credited for pension purposes if they're not submitting.
It will also impact on universal credit and other benefit claims.
• pay any employees, including company directors, £123 or more a week
•. employ anyone who’s getting a pension or already has another job
• provide expenses or benefits to employees, including company directors
• use subcontractors under the Construction Industry Scheme (CIS), or reclaim CIS deductions taken from payments