Half painted road markings

Sandtree

Our council decided to approve 1,000+ new flats without parking facilities a couple of years ago, last year they decided all these new homes without parking may cause parking issues for those living further out so decided to put double yellows down and resident parking areas requiring a £130 permit from 8am-6:30pm. Both issues caused local objections but it got passed anyway so its water under the bridge.

Our street currently has unrestricted parking along most of it other than the occasional bus stop and one or two short stretches of double yellows. Two months ago or so the council came around and put new signage up but covered them in black plastic... one blew off and its the parking restrictions

A few days later the road painting crew were out but no one had implemented any temporary no parking so they were trying to draw the parking boxes around parked vehicles and putting double yellows down between the cars. You could see the instructions that have been sprayed onto the road but now have a load of 100m stretches of road with a dozen 3" bits of double yellows and white parking boxes that get wider in the middle because a recovery truck was there on the day they painted it.

Since then there doesn't seem to have been any return to continue the painting attempts, from what I see the window for making objections to the introduction of permits is open until the end of the month. Are most councils this slapdash in their approach? Is it likely a clearway was supposed to have been put in and it was forgotten so the painting crew just did the best they could? Do you think they'll wait for the permit scheme to take effect before returning? Presumably as long as you aren't in a permit box and you aren't touching one of the 3" bits of double yellows then its unrestricted parking until they get round to finish painting the double yellows?

At the moment everyone is parking as normal inc over the little bits of double yellow and not a single sign of a ticket yet.

elsien

Ask your local councillor what’s happening about the lines and signage? 

Grumpy_chap

Implementing the restrictions before the consultation is complete does rather indicate that the consultation is a sham.

AIUI (but I'm not an expert), very small things can be used as a "get out" on enforcement of yellow lines. 
One such example is if the line does not end with a proper "return".  I wouldn't like to have to test this though.  There may be others on the parking tickets forum that know more definitely.

Another is if the signage does not match road markings - there is a bay in our High Street that has sign "disabled only" and road marking "loading only" so the effect is anyone can park there for any reason because neither restriction can be enforced.  It is a bit of a running joke because it has been like it for years and the Council don't change it.  Perhaps they get enough revenue from tickets issued that they are not worried about the challenges that succeed from local residents.

Goudy

The council should produce a legal document for these types of changes.

They are called Traffic Orders and they usually publish new ones on their websites and in the local press, so it might be worth searching there or contacting them for a copy.

If your council is anything like ours, yes they are slapdash.
The Traffic Order for our on street parking show parking bays stretch across two side junctions, bays where there are yellow lines and more bays across the rear entrance of the local fire station at the end of the street.

I can understand some of the oddities as the road and side streets have changed, but that was 7 years ago.
What I can't understand is the bays by fire station entrance. The fire station has been there since the 1800's!

A couple of the neighbours have successfully challenged tickets issued on the street that don't match their shoddy Traffic Order, but you and your neighbours will soon realise the councils traffic control will only patrol between the stated times (usually a few minutes before the time restriction ends to catch the early bird chancers), after that it all becomes a free for all, double yellows or not.

Sandtree

Goudy said:

The council should produce a legal document for these types of changes.

They are called Traffic Orders and they usually publish new ones on their websites and in the local press, so it might be worth searching there or contacting them for a copy.

Yes, there is a traffic management order but there is no plan/diagram with it just lists 55 streets where it says it will introduce parking permits, that there will be a £2.80 pay by phone charge for non-permit holders in shared use bays and that double yellows will be introduced at junctions, footways, vehicle cross overs, and between designated parking bays.

Grumpy_chap said:

Implementing the restrictions before the consultation is complete does rather indicate that the consultation is a sham.

Actually its my misreading, the notice said July 2021 which would make more sense given the council hearing in October last year that approved it.