How is Boxt so much cheaper?

Ibrahim5

Boiler installation is a massive rip off. The parts will cost about £1K. It will probably be done in a day. They used to be happy earning £1k a day but they obviously want much more now. Boxt gives them lucrative work day after day. They would love to charge £1k a day replacing tap washers but they couldn't get away with that.

knightstyle

Make sure their quote includes upgrading the gas supply if required.  Often older boilers were installed with 15mm pipe and new ones need 22mm.  Could be an expensive extra.

BUFF

plumb1_2 said:

BUFF said:

WB has a minority stake 

Dig a little deeper, Bosch European director is also a shareholder.

He originally came from Plumb Center, not sure when he was appointed SVP at Bosch.  Anyway, they got £20 million investment from Brookfield this year so I am sure that the shareholdings will have changed but I can't yet find the data.

Alnat1

Combi boilers are now thought of as the old way, not modern. In a future where air source heat pumps will warm our houses, a tank is needed to heat water. These will be heated by electricity (possibly solar) as gas is phased out. 

If this is your forever house, it could be a mistake to remove a tank and re-route all the plumbing if this needs to be reversed in 15 years or so time.

ashe

Alnat1 said:

Combi boilers are now thought of as the old way, not modern. In a future where air source heat pumps will warm our houses, a tank is needed to heat water. These will be heated by electricity (possibly solar) as gas is phased out. 

If this is your forever house, it could be a mistake to remove a tank and re-route all the plumbing if this needs to be reversed in 15 years or so time.

I'll happily have a combi boiler for those 15 years rather than going back to having a tank. Realistically they won't be able to force the entire nation to install these within 15 years unless they're going to pay for it - the cost of these systems with current grants is very expensive and you also need new radiators fitting and pipework doing - who's footing the bill? Probably need to sort the fact that most elec is generated with gas as well and therefore much more expensive. 

Then you also need a 2x1 m space external to the property and away from boundaries. Not many people will clamour for that in their back garden! 

Also need a larger tank and people will need to understand that water won't be "hot" like it is today, and that rads will hear ambient temps rather than "heating up" quickly - coming back from holiday early? Best get your jumper on. 

After living with a tank in our old house, they can prize my combi out of my cold dead hands, hated the things. 

Bendy_House

GDB2222 said:

I used them, and I regret it. 

Why? What happened?

GDB2222

Bendy_House said:

GDB2222 said:

I used them, and I regret it. 

Why? What happened?

I don’t want to go into details, but I really, really strongly suggest not using them. 

This is based on my experience of their work. Other people seem to be perfectly happy with them, but bear in mind that I am more technically aware than many others.  

ashe

Trouble is they use a lot of installers nationwide so surely experience is anecdotal and you should consider wider reviews? My dad has used them and found them pretty good. 4.9 on trustpilot with 2 shy of 13k reviews 

GDB2222

Yes, I agree it depends on the installer. However, they told me that he was operating in accordance with their standard practice.

benson1980

ashe said:

Alnat1 said:

Combi boilers are now thought of as the old way, not modern. In a future where air source heat pumps will warm our houses, a tank is needed to heat water. These will be heated by electricity (possibly solar) as gas is phased out. 

If this is your forever house, it could be a mistake to remove a tank and re-route all the plumbing if this needs to be reversed in 15 years or so time.

I'll happily have a combi boiler for those 15 years rather than going back to having a tank. Realistically they won't be able to force the entire nation to install these within 15 years unless they're going to pay for it - the cost of these systems with current grants is very expensive and you also need new radiators fitting and pipework doing - who's footing the bill? Probably need to sort the fact that most elec is generated with gas as well and therefore much more expensive. 

Then you also need a 2x1 m space external to the property and away from boundaries. Not many people will clamour for that in their back garden! 

Also need a larger tank and people will need to understand that water won't be "hot" like it is today, and that rads will hear ambient temps rather than "heating up" quickly - coming back from holiday early? Best get your jumper on. 

After living with a tank in our old house, they can prize my combi out of my cold dead hands, hated the things. 

Older gravity fed systems/tanks- yes. Modern unvented cylinder with system boiler- I agree with Alnat. Tank allows for other heating options. People love combis and seem to be the first, and only, option people explore when updating but now we’ve upgraded our cylinder and retained our boiler the whole setup is much quieter, we can run two showers at once, we have more future proofing options…..