DVLA & Clamping Advice please

onashoestring

What is the status of your car now ? Have you paid the tax ? You usually need to do this before your vehicle is unclamped ?  

If you have now paid the tax
but you are not going to be fixing it and driving it and will be keeping it off the road in your garden -in this case  you can complete a SORN and get a refund for unused months of the the tax paid . 

However that won’t apply retrospectively ( to what’s happened in the past ) 

adilmiah1304

onashoestring said:

@adilmiah1304 this is a money saving forum so the experienced posters on here are sharing advice that will save you money in the long run.

Not paying car tax may have seemed like a money saving idea at the time.  However as you have unfortunately found out , being caught for parking an untaxed car on a public road it has cost you a lot more .

As a new driver (whatever your age ) it’s important that you familiarise yourself with all the laws around owning and driving a car . This is so that you don’t get caught out with any more fines in the future.

It was never a case of not paying it, It was a case of waiting for the skip to be removed, put it on my front driveway, fix the car up and get everything sorted out after my exams were all done and dusted. But thank you for wording it nicely

adilmiah1304

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adilmiah1304 said:

Now DVLA saying /i need to pay them on top £200+. Was the clamping people not part of DVLA? 

I admit it was my fault for not doing it straight away but I paid the clamping from all my savings (I am 18)  and now another fee I need to pay. Is that right?

Jumping back to the question, what is the £200 for?

The DVLA normally offer an "Out of Court Settlement" (OCS) which is £30 plus 1.5 times the unpaid tax. The alternative is go to court and face a £1000 fine.

If you only bought it on the day, there can only be 1 month's outstanding tax, which can't come to £170.

It says out of court fee.
How do I work out 1.5 tax? 

Is it what I have paid for the tax x 1.5?

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adilmiah1304 said:

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adilmiah1304 said:

Now DVLA saying /i need to pay them on top £200+. Was the clamping people not part of DVLA? 

I admit it was my fault for not doing it straight away but I paid the clamping from all my savings (I am 18)  and now another fee I need to pay. Is that right?

Jumping back to the question, what is the £200 for?

The DVLA normally offer an "Out of Court Settlement" (OCS) which is £30 plus 1.5 times the unpaid tax. The alternative is go to court and face a £1000 fine.

If you only bought it on the day, there can only be 1 month's outstanding tax, which can't come to £170.

It says out of court fee.
How do I work out 1.5 tax? 

Is it what I have paid for the tax x 1.5?

It is (1/12 of the annual tax x the number of months untaxed) x 1.5

Since you only didn't pay 1 months tax it should be 1/12 of the tax rate x 1.5. However the DVLA will try and recover all the outstanding tax from when it was last taxed even though you weren't responsible for the car, and if it was correctly SORN'd by the previous keeper or marked "in trade" it didn't even need to be taxed. I'm assuming it wasn't taxed when you bought it, and the tax cancelled by the change of keeper.

So if it had been standing at a dealer/trader for 12 months, there is 12 months tax owing, which is plain wrong, and I think you could appeal.

HOWEVER the system is designed so that just accepting the injustice and paying the current £200 is by far the best course of action, the stress of appealing (virtually guaranteed they will reject it first time) and a possible court appearance with the threat of a much much bigger fine (to discourage anyone from fighting) is worse than having to get a pushing leaflets through doors job or something to pay the £200.

If you look at https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/403029/Vehicle_Enforcement_Policy_Table_1__revised_.pdf

You fit into the second row, and the last box- did you pay the £160 surety, so your clamp release cost was £260?

You get the £160 back if you tax it within 14 days.

Car_54

adilmiah1304 said:

DB1904 said:

adilmiah1304 said:

DB1904 said:

adilmiah1304 said:

onashoestring said:

@adilmiah1304 this is a money saving forum so the experienced posters on here are sharing advice that will save you money in the long run.

Not paying car tax may have seemed like a money saving idea at the time.  However as you have unfortunately found out , being caught for parking an untaxed car on a public road it has cost you a lot more .

As a new driver (whatever your age ) it’s important that you familiarise yourself with all the laws around owning and driving a car . This is so that you don’t get caught out with any more fines in the future.

It was never a case of not paying it, It was a case of waiting for the skip to be removed, put it on my front driveway, fix the car up and get everything sorted out after my exams were all done and dusted. But thank you for wording it nicely

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You didn't need to drive it, just USING it on the road.(e.g. parked) is an offence.

adilmiah1304

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adilmiah1304 said:

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adilmiah1304 said:

Now DVLA saying /i need to pay them on top £200+. Was the clamping people not part of DVLA? 

I admit it was my fault for not doing it straight away but I paid the clamping from all my savings (I am 18)  and now another fee I need to pay. Is that right?

Jumping back to the question, what is the £200 for?

The DVLA normally offer an "Out of Court Settlement" (OCS) which is £30 plus 1.5 times the unpaid tax. The alternative is go to court and face a £1000 fine.

If you only bought it on the day, there can only be 1 month's outstanding tax, which can't come to £170.

It says out of court fee.
How do I work out 1.5 tax? 

Is it what I have paid for the tax x 1.5?

It is (1/12 of the annual tax x the number of months untaxed) x 1.5

Since you only didn't pay 1 months tax it should be 1/12 of the tax rate x 1.5. However the DVLA will try and recover all the outstanding tax from when it was last taxed even though you weren't responsible for the car, and if it was correctly SORN'd by the previous keeper or marked "in trade" it didn't even need to be taxed. I'm assuming it wasn't taxed when you bought it, and the tax cancelled by the change of keeper.

So if it had been standing at a dealer/trader for 12 months, there is 12 months tax owing, which is plain wrong, and I think you could appeal.

HOWEVER the system is designed so that just accepting the injustice and paying the current £200 is by far the best course of action, the stress of appealing (virtually guaranteed they will reject it first time) and a possible court appearance with the threat of a much much bigger fine (to discourage anyone from fighting) is worse than having to get a pushing leaflets through doors job or something to pay the £200.

Thats awesome, thank you

adilmiah1304

This happened back in January this year