📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

International property exposure - short term volatility

In my wanderings to create an overall portfolio. 
I decided that the family home was enough exposure to UK property prices and I would not add UK specific commercial property or indirect proxies for UK residential.
But I started to look at whether international property yields had a role as an asset class diversifier in my DIY drawdown investment portfolio

So I looked at and started to monitor a couple of international property funds on trustnet and morningstar
I did not buy any back in March.  These were not painstaking selected.  A fairly basic look on platforms I use for funds of this type from a major provider.

The examples

iShares European Property Yield UCITS ETF EUR (Dist) (IPRP)

I started looking at it in the spring.  -21.49% in 3 months.
GBP:EUR has gone from 1.2 to 1.18 over the same period. So it's not really FX.

iShares Asia Property Yield UCITS ETF USD (Dist) (GBP) | IASP

This is down 1.2% over the same 3 months. 
And the £ is down against the base currency USD by 8%.  Assume local currency Asia returns are FX back to USD so this sterling depreciation flatters the return if I have it right.

I still don't fully understand the interplay of what has happened here. I would like to better before using them.

My thoughts - clearly there is already trouble across europe and strong potential for more - fossil energy costs feeding through to everything compounded by GBP:USD and EUR:USD with crude priced in USD --> business failures --> property leases torn up in administration/restructuring --> lower rental income for commercial property holding companies -> lower predicted earnings for said companies -> lower share prices -> less favoured by speculation about it and lower P/E multiplier -> even lower share price. 
Is that it ?  What else is happening here. Have I failed to grasp a fundamental mechanism of this type of indirect property investment. 
I hate breaking the Don't invest in what you don't understand rule

Thoughts

Comments

  • mark55man
    mark55man Posts: 8,193 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    @gm0 - sorry I didn't spot this earlier.  I suggest it could do better with responses  in the savings and investment board - I'm happy to flag it for moving if you want or you could just repost there if you haven't already.

    In any case this message will bump you to the top and maybe attract some interest
    I think I saw you in an ice cream parlour
    Drinking milk shakes, cold and long
    Smiling and waving and looking so fine
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 350.6K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.3K Spending & Discounts
  • 243.6K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 598.3K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.7K Life & Family
  • 256.7K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.