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Wicks fitted kitchen electrics supply quote

2stixoftwixes
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Hi
We are having a new Wicks fitted kitchen installed.
We have just had the installer round who has quoted for additional work on his home survey form

He has quoted
Install electrics up to 3.2kw 2 @ £186    (oven and extractor fan)
install electrics 3.2kw or over 1 @ £200  (ceramic hob)

He will be literally taking the old single over, hob and extractor fan out and putting a new one in its place.

The kitchen was previously fitted in 2007 by B&Q which we had an NICEIC for - which I believe now has expired

The cooker and hob are on their own circuit on the RCD (extractor is separate)
The cooker and hob feed into a single socket that has its own switch (see photo)


Before I tackle him, can anyone shed any light if they are trying to pull a fast one, if the works are needed or what the state of play is,
as I'm a bit bemused at what the £572 quoted is actually for 

He has also quoted £95 to provide an electrical certificate and notify the governing body when required Part B


 

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  • grumbler
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    edited 2 July 2022 at 2:52PM

    The kitchen was previously fitted in 2007 by B&Q which we had an NICEIC for - which I believe now has expired
    I don't think that such certificates expire at all, not to mention after 15 years.

    The cooker and hob are on their own circuit on the RCD (extractor is separate)
    The cooker and hob feed into a single socket that has its own switch (see photo)
    Own RCD? Maybe own MCB? 
    What's plugged into the socket? Normally, the big red switch controls some cooker plate (not a socket) hidden under the worktop, that the hob is hardwired to.
    What do you call "cooker and hob"? Oven and hob? Cooker and hood?

  • 2stixoftwixes
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    Single oven and ceramic hob

    RCD  .. MCB   
    don't know big box with lots of switches

    Red flip switch on socket (photo) controls the ceramic hob

    The switch next to it (with the plug) controls the oven
  • grumbler
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    Is this switch installed inside the floor cabinet? I didn't notice this at the first glance.
    I wouldn't say it's normal and I don't like this, but if the new appliances remain in the same place I don't see how moving this switch into the new cabinet can cost that much.
  • FreeBear
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    grumbler said: Is this switch installed inside the floor cabinet? I didn't notice this at the first glance.
    I wouldn't say it's normal and I don't like this,
    Me neither. Sockets under the counter should have a matching isolation switch (fused) above. Cooker circuits should be adequately rated - For an electric hob, that is usually 6KW or more, so 6-10mm² cable and a 32A or 40A MCB. A 3.2KW (13A) circuit is not going to be anywhere big enough for a decent hob - You can get some models with a 13A plug on the end, but you won't be able to use all four rings on full power. If you are lucky, simmer on two, and boil on a third.

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  • 2stixoftwixes
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    Yes, the switch in the photo is in the floor cupboard next to the oven.  totally accessible

    Never had problems running anything, oven and all 4 rings of the hob going 


  • diystarter7
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    Have you tried the builder websites where you can seek qualified/etc tradesmen?
    They can often give you a good idea of price and when they can do it.
    However, is it really wotrth the risk ie the link up being mismatched?
  • 2stixoftwixes
    2stixoftwixes Posts: 107 Forumite
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    Well I may go down that route, I was wondering if a sparky was around that could advise
  • FreeBear
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    diystarter7 said: Have you tried the builder websites where you can seek qualified/etc tradesmen?
    If you mean sites like checkatrade.... Good tradesmen have no need of those sites as they get more than enough work through local recommendations. Those site usually charge the advertisers for the leads, which get factored in to any quotes given.
    I have used MyBuilder just once for a plasterer. Whilst the price was reasonable, the quality of work was not of the highest standard and required some remedial work in a couple of spots.

    If you must use one of those sites, be careful. If anyone says they can start next week, ask yourself why - Trades are running on three to six months lead at the moment (or the good ones are).

    Any language construct that forces such insanity in this case should be abandoned without regrets. –
    Erik Aronesty, 2014

    Treasure the moments that you have. Savour them for as long as you can for they will never come back again.
  • diystarter7
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    edited 2 July 2022 at 7:20PM
    FreeBear said:
    diystarter7 said: Have you tried the builder websites where you can seek qualified/etc tradesmen?
    If you mean sites like checkatrade.... Good tradesmen have no need of those sites as they get more than enough work through local recommendations. Those site usually charge the advertisers for the leads, which get factored in to any quotes given.
    I have used MyBuilder just once for a plasterer. Whilst the price was reasonable, the quality of work was not of the highest standard and required some remedial work in a couple of spots.

    If you must use one of those sites, be careful. If anyone says they can start next week, ask yourself why - Trades are running on three to six months lead at the moment (or the good ones are).

    I dont think Checkatrade do.

    "About good trades men...."  =  We've found a few and then used them again

    On Trustatrader we check their reviews and call them or is is it Trustatrader as one uses leads to pay for the other does not.

    Trades have to start from somewhere and at times unless its a one-man outfit, their workers can let them down

    So I'm standing by what I've said to the OP.

    Another thing re "good tradesmen" - we used a floor layer that one of our children used he did a 100%+ job if that is possible. 
    The same bloke fitted us in a few weeks later at an agreed price but was in the process of moving and constantly nattering. I had to tell him to keep a gap between the wall and the wood floor he said its not required - I had to tell him that is what i want. 
    As he fitted the new skirting in the large hall and porch i noted it was squeezing the floor and need a mm or so gap for movement. Anyway, he finnished we paid him - the next day we noted the fool had used two lengths of damaged flooring edges were slightly chipped and as we have a semi-open plan house when the sun shone there were easily noted by us - there was more than enough flooring to allow for damaged items not to be used. So there you go, even so-called good trades have bad days.

    What you have said is on the whole true, but there are exceptions.

    No offence intended. :)

  • Section62
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    Have you tried the builder websites where you can seek qualified/etc tradesmen?

    What do you mean by "qualified[] tradesmen"?

    Do these websites check the tradesperson's qualifications?  If not, does that help people find a good tradesperson?
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