We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Accident where not claiming and NCB

IvyFlood
IvyFlood Posts: 359 Forumite
Seventh Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
Hoping for some advice please.

My husband went into the back of someone this morning. No one was injured and very minimal damage to both cars - it was just a bump. My husband and the driver exchanged details and he has reported it to our insurance provider - Admiral. He said it was just for information purposes as we aren't planning to make a claim but they have said that due to the Highway Code, we automatically lose 2 years off our NCB whether we claim or not. Is this correct? I thought it was only affected if you make a claim?

Comments

  • Highway Code? Where does that touch on the administration of motor insurance policies?

    The non-glib answer that your insurers now know that your husband has had an accident, which will increase his premiums as he's gone from being a driver who doesn't have accidents to one who does. That shouldn't affect the NCB; I'd be on the phone back to them to ask exactly how not making a claim affects the NCB as opposed to the premium, and can they point to which paragraph in the HC stipulates this.
  • Car_54
    Car_54 Posts: 9,067 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    The call centre person to whom your husband spoke seems to have been especially ill-informed.
  • IvyFlood
    IvyFlood Posts: 359 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    So I just spoke to them and obviously they cant say too much but the chap said if someone has been 'rear ended' they will make a claim and so that is why it would reduce. It sounded as if they've already started the process except he can't confirm so wouldn't give me a straight answer when I said if the other party doesn't claim and we don't claim it wont be reduced. Expecting some bad post... :-(
  • facade
    facade Posts: 8,021 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    I suspect that what has happened is that the person who has been run into the back of is claiming from your husband's insurance. 
    So there will be a claim against your husband, although he didn't make it. (He has made it technically, as the third party claims against your husband, and his insurer deals with it, as they are paid to do.)
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
  • IvyFlood
    IvyFlood Posts: 359 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    facade said:
    I suspect that what has happened is that the person who has been run into the back of is claiming from your husband's insurance. 
    So there will be a claim against your husband, although he didn't make it. (He has made it technically, as the third party claims against your husband, and his insurer deals with it, as they are paid to do.)
    Yes you are correct, I understand it now. My husband did say he'd pay for any damage but I suspect the other party wants to go through insurance... surely he'll still have to pay his excess? Or would that be recoverable as we were at fault? 5 years ago a van went into the back of me at 60mph and my car was a write off. Obviously I claimed but I recall still having to pay my excess!
  • Sandtree
    Sandtree Posts: 10,628 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Fourth Anniversary Name Dropper
    IvyFlood said:
    Hoping for some advice please.

    My husband went into the back of someone this morning. No one was injured and very minimal damage to both cars - it was just a bump. My husband and the driver exchanged details and he has reported it to our insurance provider - Admiral. He said it was just for information purposes as we aren't planning to make a claim but they have said that due to the Highway Code, we automatically lose 2 years off our NCB whether we claim or not. Is this correct? I thought it was only affected if you make a claim?
    Admiral call centre staff used to be fairly reasonable...

    The NCD will be lost if either party make a claim against your policy not just you. Most insurers in these types of scenario will open a claim to record the details and then leave the file open for 3-6 months to see if there is any approach from the third party at all. If there is they have to deal with it, if there isn't then they will close the file (but would have to reopen it should a claim appear at a later date).

    Whilst the file is open it will impact the NCD theoretically but it only becomes practical if your policy renews between now and when the file is closed for non-activity. 

    Highway Code is certainly some urban myth they've heard flying around the call centre.
  • IvyFlood
    IvyFlood Posts: 359 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    Sandtree said:
    IvyFlood said:
    Hoping for some advice please.

    My husband went into the back of someone this morning. No one was injured and very minimal damage to both cars - it was just a bump. My husband and the driver exchanged details and he has reported it to our insurance provider - Admiral. He said it was just for information purposes as we aren't planning to make a claim but they have said that due to the Highway Code, we automatically lose 2 years off our NCB whether we claim or not. Is this correct? I thought it was only affected if you make a claim?
    Admiral call centre staff used to be fairly reasonable...

    The NCD will be lost if either party make a claim against your policy not just you. Most insurers in these types of scenario will open a claim to record the details and then leave the file open for 3-6 months to see if there is any approach from the third party at all. If there is they have to deal with it, if there isn't then they will close the file (but would have to reopen it should a claim appear at a later date).

    Whilst the file is open it will impact the NCD theoretically but it only becomes practical if your policy renews between now and when the file is closed for non-activity. 

    Highway Code is certainly some urban myth they've heard flying around the call centre.
    Our renewal is due 29th April 2023 so lets hope that file gets closed! Not looking forward to the increased premium however...
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.3K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.2K Spending & Discounts
  • 247K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 603.6K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.3K Life & Family
  • 261.1K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.