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Does it become mine

I had delivered a large heavy pallet of garage floor covering, this was delivered incorrectly and I contacted the firm who sent out another pallet of the correct floor covering. The courier didn’t take back the original but another driver came a couple of days later but was unable to pickup the pallet as it was too heavy for the van brought. That was over a month ago and I’ve had no contact since, bear in mind this is £1500 of material, also it is blocking the use of one of my garages too.

My question is, does this material become legally mine after a period of time?
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  • powerful_Rogue
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    PhilH said:
    I had delivered a large heavy pallet of garage floor covering, this was delivered incorrectly and I contacted the firm who sent out another pallet of the correct floor covering. The courier didn’t take back the original but another driver came a couple of days later but was unable to pickup the pallet as it was too heavy for the van brought. That was over a month ago and I’ve had no contact since, bear in mind this is £1500 of material, also it is blocking the use of one of my garages too.

    My question is, does this material become legally mine after a period of time?
    After six years the company won't be able to make a claim via the court for the £1500, so technically then. Pick up the phone and give them a call.

  • Ergates
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    edited 10 June 2022 at 3:33PM
    PhilH said:
    I had delivered a large heavy pallet of garage floor covering, this was delivered incorrectly and I contacted the firm who sent out another pallet of the correct floor covering. The courier didn’t take back the original but another driver came a couple of days later but was unable to pickup the pallet as it was too heavy for the van brought. That was over a month ago and I’ve had no contact since, bear in mind this is £1500 of material, also it is blocking the use of one of my garages too.

    My question is, does this material become legally mine after a period of time?
    If, after a "reasonable" time, and having been given plenty of warnings, the owner still has not returned to retrieve their goods, then you are entitled to dispose of or sell them.

    If you wish to dispose them, then you may do this once you can demonstrate you have made reasonable attempts to get the owner come and get their stuff, warned them that you will dispose of the goods if they don't, and given them time to do so.

    If you wish to sell them, then you need to further inform them that you are intending to sell the goods (and given them time etc).  Then you must sell the goods for the best price you can get (no handing them over to your neighbour for £5), AND you must then set aside the money for the owner (minus any costs incurred by the sale), and make all reasonable efforts to return the money.   After 6 years, the will no longer be able to claim the money.

    I don't think disposing of them could include selling them and keeping the money, but might include giving them away to a charity or something.

    What constitutes a "reasonable" amount of time is hard to say - but assuming this is reasonably large company, then giving them 14 days notice for disposal should be long enough for them to arrange collection - especially as they've already had a month.
  • powerful_Rogue
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    Ergates said:
    PhilH said:
    I had delivered a large heavy pallet of garage floor covering, this was delivered incorrectly and I contacted the firm who sent out another pallet of the correct floor covering. The courier didn’t take back the original but another driver came a couple of days later but was unable to pickup the pallet as it was too heavy for the van brought. That was over a month ago and I’ve had no contact since, bear in mind this is £1500 of material, also it is blocking the use of one of my garages too.

    My question is, does this material become legally mine after a period of time?
    If, after a "reasonable" time, and having been given plenty of warnings, the owner still has not returned to retrieve their goods, then you are entitled to dispose of or sell them.

    If you wish to dispose them, then you may do this once you can demonstrate you have made reasonable attempts to get the owner come and get their stuff, warned them that you will dispose of the goods if they don't, and given them time to do so.

    If you wish to sell them, then you need to further inform them that you are intending to sell the goods (and given them time etc).  Then you must sell the goods for the best price you can get (no handing them over to your neighbour for £5), AND you must then set aside the money for the owner (minus any costs incurred by the sale), and make all reasonable efforts to return the money.   After 6 years, the will no longer be able to claim the money.

    I don't think disposing of them could include selling them and keeping the money, but might include giving them away to a charity or something.

    What constitutes a "reasonable" amount of time is hard to say - but assuming this is reasonably large company, then giving them 14 days notice for disposal should be long enough for them to arrange collection - especially as they've already had a month.

    Giving the goods away is not permitted. The items must be sold for the best price. You also have to send two letters a certain time apart before you sell.
  • Ergates
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    Ergates said:
    PhilH said:
    I had delivered a large heavy pallet of garage floor covering, this was delivered incorrectly and I contacted the firm who sent out another pallet of the correct floor covering. The courier didn’t take back the original but another driver came a couple of days later but was unable to pickup the pallet as it was too heavy for the van brought. That was over a month ago and I’ve had no contact since, bear in mind this is £1500 of material, also it is blocking the use of one of my garages too.

    My question is, does this material become legally mine after a period of time?
    If, after a "reasonable" time, and having been given plenty of warnings, the owner still has not returned to retrieve their goods, then you are entitled to dispose of or sell them.

    If you wish to dispose them, then you may do this once you can demonstrate you have made reasonable attempts to get the owner come and get their stuff, warned them that you will dispose of the goods if they don't, and given them time to do so.

    If you wish to sell them, then you need to further inform them that you are intending to sell the goods (and given them time etc).  Then you must sell the goods for the best price you can get (no handing them over to your neighbour for £5), AND you must then set aside the money for the owner (minus any costs incurred by the sale), and make all reasonable efforts to return the money.   After 6 years, the will no longer be able to claim the money.

    I don't think disposing of them could include selling them and keeping the money, but might include giving them away to a charity or something.

    What constitutes a "reasonable" amount of time is hard to say - but assuming this is reasonably large company, then giving them 14 days notice for disposal should be long enough for them to arrange collection - especially as they've already had a month.

    Giving the goods away is not permitted. The items must be sold for the best price. You also have to send two letters a certain time apart before you sell.
    That is assuming the goods are saleable by the property owner which, given it's "garage floor covering" might not be the case.
  • powerful_Rogue
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    Ergates said:
    Ergates said:
    PhilH said:
    I had delivered a large heavy pallet of garage floor covering, this was delivered incorrectly and I contacted the firm who sent out another pallet of the correct floor covering. The courier didn’t take back the original but another driver came a couple of days later but was unable to pickup the pallet as it was too heavy for the van brought. That was over a month ago and I’ve had no contact since, bear in mind this is £1500 of material, also it is blocking the use of one of my garages too.

    My question is, does this material become legally mine after a period of time?
    If, after a "reasonable" time, and having been given plenty of warnings, the owner still has not returned to retrieve their goods, then you are entitled to dispose of or sell them.

    If you wish to dispose them, then you may do this once you can demonstrate you have made reasonable attempts to get the owner come and get their stuff, warned them that you will dispose of the goods if they don't, and given them time to do so.

    If you wish to sell them, then you need to further inform them that you are intending to sell the goods (and given them time etc).  Then you must sell the goods for the best price you can get (no handing them over to your neighbour for £5), AND you must then set aside the money for the owner (minus any costs incurred by the sale), and make all reasonable efforts to return the money.   After 6 years, the will no longer be able to claim the money.

    I don't think disposing of them could include selling them and keeping the money, but might include giving them away to a charity or something.

    What constitutes a "reasonable" amount of time is hard to say - but assuming this is reasonably large company, then giving them 14 days notice for disposal should be long enough for them to arrange collection - especially as they've already had a month.

    Giving the goods away is not permitted. The items must be sold for the best price. You also have to send two letters a certain time apart before you sell.
    That is assuming the goods are saleable by the property owner which, given it's "garage floor covering" might not be the case.

    Sorry, I don't get you.
  • Ergates
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    edited 10 June 2022 at 4:13PM
    Ergates said:
    Ergates said:
    PhilH said:
    I had delivered a large heavy pallet of garage floor covering, this was delivered incorrectly and I contacted the firm who sent out another pallet of the correct floor covering. The courier didn’t take back the original but another driver came a couple of days later but was unable to pickup the pallet as it was too heavy for the van brought. That was over a month ago and I’ve had no contact since, bear in mind this is £1500 of material, also it is blocking the use of one of my garages too.

    My question is, does this material become legally mine after a period of time?
    If, after a "reasonable" time, and having been given plenty of warnings, the owner still has not returned to retrieve their goods, then you are entitled to dispose of or sell them.

    If you wish to dispose them, then you may do this once you can demonstrate you have made reasonable attempts to get the owner come and get their stuff, warned them that you will dispose of the goods if they don't, and given them time to do so.

    If you wish to sell them, then you need to further inform them that you are intending to sell the goods (and given them time etc).  Then you must sell the goods for the best price you can get (no handing them over to your neighbour for £5), AND you must then set aside the money for the owner (minus any costs incurred by the sale), and make all reasonable efforts to return the money.   After 6 years, the will no longer be able to claim the money.

    I don't think disposing of them could include selling them and keeping the money, but might include giving them away to a charity or something.

    What constitutes a "reasonable" amount of time is hard to say - but assuming this is reasonably large company, then giving them 14 days notice for disposal should be long enough for them to arrange collection - especially as they've already had a month.

    Giving the goods away is not permitted. The items must be sold for the best price. You also have to send two letters a certain time apart before you sell.
    That is assuming the goods are saleable by the property owner which, given it's "garage floor covering" might not be the case.

    Sorry, I don't get you.
    The act requires "the best method of sale reasonably available in the circumstances".

    If the goods in question were something easy to sell like a new unboxed iPhone or whatever - then fine, no problem.

    But how, as a member of the public, is one meant to sell a pallet of garage floor covering?   

    Also taking into consideration that the pallet is currently blocking the OPs garage - thus preventing them from making full use of their own property.
  • powerful_Rogue
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    Ergates said:
    Ergates said:
    Ergates said:
    PhilH said:
    I had delivered a large heavy pallet of garage floor covering, this was delivered incorrectly and I contacted the firm who sent out another pallet of the correct floor covering. The courier didn’t take back the original but another driver came a couple of days later but was unable to pickup the pallet as it was too heavy for the van brought. That was over a month ago and I’ve had no contact since, bear in mind this is £1500 of material, also it is blocking the use of one of my garages too.

    My question is, does this material become legally mine after a period of time?
    If, after a "reasonable" time, and having been given plenty of warnings, the owner still has not returned to retrieve their goods, then you are entitled to dispose of or sell them.

    If you wish to dispose them, then you may do this once you can demonstrate you have made reasonable attempts to get the owner come and get their stuff, warned them that you will dispose of the goods if they don't, and given them time to do so.

    If you wish to sell them, then you need to further inform them that you are intending to sell the goods (and given them time etc).  Then you must sell the goods for the best price you can get (no handing them over to your neighbour for £5), AND you must then set aside the money for the owner (minus any costs incurred by the sale), and make all reasonable efforts to return the money.   After 6 years, the will no longer be able to claim the money.

    I don't think disposing of them could include selling them and keeping the money, but might include giving them away to a charity or something.

    What constitutes a "reasonable" amount of time is hard to say - but assuming this is reasonably large company, then giving them 14 days notice for disposal should be long enough for them to arrange collection - especially as they've already had a month.

    Giving the goods away is not permitted. The items must be sold for the best price. You also have to send two letters a certain time apart before you sell.
    That is assuming the goods are saleable by the property owner which, given it's "garage floor covering" might not be the case.

    Sorry, I don't get you.
    The act requires "the best method of sale reasonably available in the circumstances".

    If the goods in question were something easy to sell like a new unboxed iPhone or whatever - then fine, no problem.

    But how, as a member of the public, is one meant to sell a pallet of garage floor covering?   

    Also taking into consideration that the pallet is currently blocking the OPs garage - thus preventing them from making full use of their own property.

    You whack it on ebay - Best way of determining the best price. Someone would buy it.
  • Ergates
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    Ergates said:
    Ergates said:
    Ergates said:
    PhilH said:
    I had delivered a large heavy pallet of garage floor covering, this was delivered incorrectly and I contacted the firm who sent out another pallet of the correct floor covering. The courier didn’t take back the original but another driver came a couple of days later but was unable to pickup the pallet as it was too heavy for the van brought. That was over a month ago and I’ve had no contact since, bear in mind this is £1500 of material, also it is blocking the use of one of my garages too.

    My question is, does this material become legally mine after a period of time?
    If, after a "reasonable" time, and having been given plenty of warnings, the owner still has not returned to retrieve their goods, then you are entitled to dispose of or sell them.

    If you wish to dispose them, then you may do this once you can demonstrate you have made reasonable attempts to get the owner come and get their stuff, warned them that you will dispose of the goods if they don't, and given them time to do so.

    If you wish to sell them, then you need to further inform them that you are intending to sell the goods (and given them time etc).  Then you must sell the goods for the best price you can get (no handing them over to your neighbour for £5), AND you must then set aside the money for the owner (minus any costs incurred by the sale), and make all reasonable efforts to return the money.   After 6 years, the will no longer be able to claim the money.

    I don't think disposing of them could include selling them and keeping the money, but might include giving them away to a charity or something.

    What constitutes a "reasonable" amount of time is hard to say - but assuming this is reasonably large company, then giving them 14 days notice for disposal should be long enough for them to arrange collection - especially as they've already had a month.

    Giving the goods away is not permitted. The items must be sold for the best price. You also have to send two letters a certain time apart before you sell.
    That is assuming the goods are saleable by the property owner which, given it's "garage floor covering" might not be the case.

    Sorry, I don't get you.
    The act requires "the best method of sale reasonably available in the circumstances".

    If the goods in question were something easy to sell like a new unboxed iPhone or whatever - then fine, no problem.

    But how, as a member of the public, is one meant to sell a pallet of garage floor covering?   

    Also taking into consideration that the pallet is currently blocking the OPs garage - thus preventing them from making full use of their own property.

    You whack it on ebay - Best way of determining the best price. Someone would buy it.
    Maybe - but remember we're talking a pallet that was too heavy for the person they sent to collect it to take, which is going to pose a serious limitation on the number of potential customers.
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    Ergates said:

    Maybe - but remember we're talking a pallet that was too heavy for the person they sent to collect it to take, which is going to pose a serious limitation on the number of potential customers.

    OP didn't say it was too heavy for the person but rather too heavy for the van.  Yes it would limit who might buy it but a determined tradesperson with a decent truck might just go for it.

    And the fact it was being put up for sale in itself might motivate the seller to come and collect it.
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    Pick up the phone and ask them to come and collect them but I think the OP wants to keep quiet and secretly flog them on for profits.
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