Do I need permission to take our child abroad?

ZaSa1418

ironlady2022 said:

elsien said:

You could just take her and plead ignorance after the event if he does find out.  You need to decide if that's worth the additional problems it may cause in the future. 

Nah, he's seen a travel consent form I put together and agreed the info included was ok. 

I just know he will refuse and then it's onto court. 

So he has seen a travel consent form and said the info was ok but you don't think he will agree to the holiday.
I think it would be stupid of him to say no and you end up in court. If you do i would go and get your schedule set in the form of a CAO which would give you permission to take her out of the country for 28 days without his permission. 

ironlady2022

ZaSa1418 said:

ironlady2022 said:

elsien said:

You could just take her and plead ignorance after the event if he does find out.  You need to decide if that's worth the additional problems it may cause in the future. 

Nah, he's seen a travel consent form I put together and agreed the info included was ok. 

I just know he will refuse and then it's onto court. 

So he has seen a travel consent form and said the info was ok but you don't think he will agree to the holiday.
I think it would be stupid of him to say no and you end up in court. If you do i would go and get your schedule set in the form of a CAO which would give you permission to take her out of the country for 28 days without his permission. 

Sorry was not clear. The form was blank for future use.

Yeh I'm trying to avoid a CAO as it is so inflexible. 

ZaSa1418

ironlady2022 said:

ZaSa1418 said:

ironlady2022 said:

elsien said:

You could just take her and plead ignorance after the event if he does find out.  You need to decide if that's worth the additional problems it may cause in the future. 

Nah, he's seen a travel consent form I put together and agreed the info included was ok. 

I just know he will refuse and then it's onto court. 

So he has seen a travel consent form and said the info was ok but you don't think he will agree to the holiday.
I think it would be stupid of him to say no and you end up in court. If you do i would go and get your schedule set in the form of a CAO which would give you permission to take her out of the country for 28 days without his permission. 

Sorry was not clear. The form was blank for future use.

Yeh I'm trying to avoid a CAO as it is so inflexible. 

Ah okay, i thought it was recent.
Send him an email and say 'Hi Ex, i am planning on taking Daughter away between these dates to x country. This will not disrupt your contact time' or something like that and see what he says. 

ironlady2022

ZaSa1418 said:

ironlady2022 said:

ZaSa1418 said:

ironlady2022 said:

elsien said:

You could just take her and plead ignorance after the event if he does find out.  You need to decide if that's worth the additional problems it may cause in the future. 

Nah, he's seen a travel consent form I put together and agreed the info included was ok. 

I just know he will refuse and then it's onto court. 

So he has seen a travel consent form and said the info was ok but you don't think he will agree to the holiday.
I think it would be stupid of him to say no and you end up in court. If you do i would go and get your schedule set in the form of a CAO which would give you permission to take her out of the country for 28 days without his permission. 

Sorry was not clear. The form was blank for future use.

Yeh I'm trying to avoid a CAO as it is so inflexible. 

Ah okay, i thought it was recent.
Send him an email and say 'Hi Ex, i am planning on taking Daughter away between these dates to x country. This will not disrupt your contact time' or something like that and see what he says. 

Thank you for this. I like the part on him not losing contact time. I don't have anything in mind at the moment as not got anywhere booked. 

tightauldgit

ironlady2022 said:

ZaSa1418 said:

ironlady2022 said:

elsien said:

You could just take her and plead ignorance after the event if he does find out.  You need to decide if that's worth the additional problems it may cause in the future. 

Nah, he's seen a travel consent form I put together and agreed the info included was ok. 

I just know he will refuse and then it's onto court. 

So he has seen a travel consent form and said the info was ok but you don't think he will agree to the holiday.
I think it would be stupid of him to say no and you end up in court. If you do i would go and get your schedule set in the form of a CAO which would give you permission to take her out of the country for 28 days without his permission. 

Sorry was not clear. The form was blank for future use.

Yeh I'm trying to avoid a CAO as it is so inflexible. 

There's no reason a CAO will be any more inflexible that your current arrangement - if it's mutually agreed between both parents then you can still do whatever you want with a CAO. What a CAO gives you is clarity on rights/responsibilities where mutual agreement isn't possible (such as this situation) 

Other than the expense of getting it (and that's relatively minor in the big scheme of things) I can't really think of any reason to avoid getting a CAO.

Maskface

ironlady2022 said:

elsien said:

You could just take her and plead ignorance after the event if he does find out.  You need to decide if that's worth the additional problems it may cause in the future. 

Nah, he's seen a travel consent form I put together and agreed the info included was ok. 

I just know he will refuse and then it's onto court. 

Why give him ammunition then? He might tell the court you've taken his child abroad without his consent before and cause further problems for you in future.

ZaSa1418

ironlady2022 said:

ZaSa1418 said:

ironlady2022 said:

ZaSa1418 said:

ironlady2022 said:

elsien said:

You could just take her and plead ignorance after the event if he does find out.  You need to decide if that's worth the additional problems it may cause in the future. 

Nah, he's seen a travel consent form I put together and agreed the info included was ok. 

I just know he will refuse and then it's onto court. 

So he has seen a travel consent form and said the info was ok but you don't think he will agree to the holiday.
I think it would be stupid of him to say no and you end up in court. If you do i would go and get your schedule set in the form of a CAO which would give you permission to take her out of the country for 28 days without his permission. 

Sorry was not clear. The form was blank for future use.

Yeh I'm trying to avoid a CAO as it is so inflexible. 

Ah okay, i thought it was recent.
Send him an email and say 'Hi Ex, i am planning on taking Daughter away between these dates to x country. This will not disrupt your contact time' or something like that and see what he says. 

Thank you for this. I like the part on him not losing contact time. I don't have anything in mind at the moment as not got anywhere booked. 

I think if he doesn't miss contact time he is going to look extremely stupid for saying no and he would fail in court to stop you (if it got to that) Once you have booked something go from there. 

amexblue

Would you expect him to ask you if he wanted to take your child abroad?

TBagpuss

ironlady2022 said:

ZaSa1418 said:

ironlady2022 said:

elsien said:

You could just take her and plead ignorance after the event if he does find out.  You need to decide if that's worth the additional problems it may cause in the future. 

Nah, he's seen a travel consent form I put together and agreed the info included was ok. 

I just know he will refuse and then it's onto court. 

So he has seen a travel consent form and said the info was ok but you don't think he will agree to the holiday.
I think it would be stupid of him to say no and you end up in court. If you do i would go and get your schedule set in the form of a CAO which would give you permission to take her out of the country for 28 days without his permission. 

Sorry was not clear. The form was blank for future use.

Yeh I'm trying to avoid a CAO as it is so inflexible. 

It would be open to you to just apply for a Specifc Issue Order (effecctively asking the court for permission to take her as he has refused. HE could then apply for a formal child arrangments order if he wanted, but it isn't compulsory. You couldaask for this to be a bit wider that just the current holiday - e.g. ask for permission to take her out of the UKL for periods of up to 14 days t a time subject to giving him not less than 28 days notice and offering time in lieu for any contact missed , so you don't have to jump through the same hoop evey time you want to go away. He, or a judge  might suggest hat it should alos allow him to take her away so think about how you would feel about thatany what sort of notice, length of trip and any conditions you would want in that scenario. 

It is also possible to draft a CAO to allow for some flexibility