POPLA appeal help please

sabzreal

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Coupon-mad

How come the car was there at McD's for over 3 hours?

KeithP

That car looks silver to me. Anyway, if you want to dispute that, then take it up with the DVLA. I wouldn't bother.

You point 2 seems to talk a lot about POFA (and indeed includes POFA 2012 in the heading), yet nowhere do you appear to be denying that the keeper was the driver.
The parking company only has to consider POFA if they want, or need, to transfer any driver's liability to the keeper.
Does UKPC already know who was driving at the time?

sabzreal

KeithP said:

That car looks silver to me. Anyway, if you want to dispute that, then take it up with the DVLA. I wouldn't bother.

You point 2 seems to talk a lot about POFA (and indeed includes POFA 2012 in the heading), yet nowhere do you appear to be denying that the keeper was the driver.
The parking company only has to consider POFA if they want, or need, to transfer any driver's liability to the keeper.
Does UKPC already know who was driving at the time?

I have no idea what I’m doing when drafting this up. They only know the registered keeper and not the driver. 

KeithP

sabzreal said:

KeithP said:

That car looks silver to me. Anyway, if you want to dispute that, then take it up with the DVLA. I wouldn't bother.

You point 2 seems to talk a lot about POFA (and indeed includes POFA 2012 in the heading), yet nowhere do you appear to be denying that the keeper was the driver.
The parking company only has to consider POFA if they want, or need, to transfer any driver's liability to the keeper.
Does UKPC already know who was driving at the time?

I have no idea what I’m doing when drafting this up. They don’t know who the driver was as the letter was ignored when they requested these details. I know I’d be screwed if the driver was disclosed

If the Notice to Keeper isn't capable of transferring any driver's liability to the keeper, then you, as the keeper, need to deny being the driver and explain in great detail how any driver's liability cannot be transferred to the keeper.

Have you seen the several near template PoPLA points in the third post of the NEWBIES thread?

Coupon-mad

But only if you weren't driving...

sabzreal

KeithP said:

sabzreal said:

KeithP said:

That car looks silver to me. Anyway, if you want to dispute that, then take it up with the DVLA. I wouldn't bother.

You point 2 seems to talk a lot about POFA (and indeed includes POFA 2012 in the heading), yet nowhere do you appear to be denying that the keeper was the driver.
The parking company only has to consider POFA if they want, or need, to transfer any driver's liability to the keeper.
Does UKPC already know who was driving at the time?

I have no idea what I’m doing when drafting this up. They don’t know who the driver was as the letter was ignored when they requested these details. I know I’d be screwed if the driver was disclosed

If the Notice to Keeper isn't capable of transferring any driver's liability to the keeper, then you, as the keeper, need to deny being the driver and explain in great detail how any driver's liability cannot be transferred to the keeper.

Have you seen the several near template PoPLA points in the third post of the NEWBIES thread?

I’ve read it a few times and wasn’t sure which applies to me as the registered keeper. Tried searching the forum for previous popla appeals too

Coupon-mad

You can't argue 'no grace period' when the car was there more than twice as long as allowed.

And points about POFA are not relevant if the NTK was a POFA one.

I am not even sure I would try POPLA, in your case. I'd stay under the radar and just collect the letters. Certainly don't pay it. The best stance is to try a landowner complaint; quite possibly the McD's manager there will cancel it for you, as you are a good customer.

This is all caused by the fact that £100 (then the fake £170 ludicrous demand) is extortionate. and the parking industry are tone deaf to the position of normal people, who either can't or won't pay this rip-off, on principle.

After 2023 when this is £50/£25 for new PCNs I'll be telling some people to pay.  If PPCs weren't so damn greedy they'd have sussed this years ago and no Govt regulation would have come their way.

Coupon-mad

Why be embarrassed? You often have breakfast or lunch there whilst working = ideal customer.

Does the manager want to lose you for the sake of ONE email to the parking firm?  I suspect they have the email address in a parking user manual or portal, and it probably starts 'cancellations@' (or similar) but if he/she says they don't know who to email, here's one that works:

appealmoreinfo@ukparkingcontrol.com

D_P_Dance

PE's signs ae pants, read this and complain to your MP.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5972164/parking-eye-signs-oxford-road-reading/p1

Umkomaas

D_P_Dance said:

PE's signs ae pants, read this and complain to your MP.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5972164/parking-eye-signs-oxford-road-reading/p1

Good morning Mr D. This is a UKPC case. 🤓