one-off £650 payment

Whitebeast

Hi there Me and my son both claim UC we both work part time 12-16 hours a week we live together,
I understand the £400 will come to me cause I pay the bills. But the one-off £650 payment will we both get that or only the person the househould name is in?

Thanks in advance

KxMx

I should think you will both get it because you are two individuals, as far as claiming UC is concerned. 

MattMattMattUK

Whitebeast said:

Hi there Me and my son both claim UC we both work part time 12-16 hours a week we live together,
I understand the £400 will come to me cause I pay the bills. But the one-off £650 payment will we both get that or only the person the househould name is in?

Thanks in advance

The £400 component will be paid via the energy bills, if you are on standard billing then it will be credited to the account, if you are on pre-payment then the exact method is still to be finalised, it could be credits to the meter, vouchers, a combination or something else. 

The £650 will depend exactly on how your UC claim is processed, firstly if any component of it is joint that will complicate things, secondly there is also some confusion about the exact definition of household as far as the payments are concerned as it specifically says "per household", which is nice and clear for some, but when it comes to multiple adults living in the same property (especially HMOs) with separate UC claims then things appear less clear at the moment. Personally my opinion is that as he is your son it will likely mean that there is only one payment to your household, but the exact details are still to be confirmed. 

Spoonie_Turtle

MattMattMattUK said:

Whitebeast said:

Hi there Me and my son both claim UC we both work part time 12-16 hours a week we live together,
I understand the £400 will come to me cause I pay the bills. But the one-off £650 payment will we both get that or only the person the househould name is in?

Thanks in advance

The £400 component will be paid via the energy bills, if you are on standard billing then it will be credited to the account, if you are on pre-payment then the exact method is still to be finalised, it could be credits to the meter, vouchers, a combination or something else. 

The £650 will depend exactly on how your UC claim is processed, firstly if any component of it is joint that will complicate things, secondly there is also some confusion about the exact definition of household as far as the payments are concerned as it specifically says "per household", which is nice and clear for some, but when it comes to multiple adults living in the same property (especially HMOs) with separate UC claims then things appear less clear at the moment. Personally my opinion is that as he is your son it will likely mean that there is only one payment to your household, but the exact details are still to be confirmed. 

There is no connection between the two claims though.

Joint claimants are partners claiming UC whose circumstances are assessed together, and get one UC calculation, one UC payment.

OP and their son claim UC separately so their claims are just that - entirely separate.  The only effect OP's son might have on their claim is that him being a non-dependant there might be a deduction from any housing element.  That's nothing to do with him claiming UC though, that's simply because he's a grown adult and not deemed to be dependant on OP.  (If he were a dependant he would not have his own UC claim.)

Edit: we definitely need clarity though.  The word 'household' is causing confusion, but if they said 'claimant' they might get people on joint claims thinking they would both be getting a payment each, which is evidently not the intention.  If they said 'per claim' then I don't think people wouod be happy being referred to as essentially a case rather than as people.  Whereas 'household' implies people.

Whitebeast

Spoonie_Turtle said:

MattMattMattUK said:

Whitebeast said:

Hi there Me and my son both claim UC we both work part time 12-16 hours a week we live together,
I understand the £400 will come to me cause I pay the bills. But the one-off £650 payment will we both get that or only the person the househould name is in?

Thanks in advance

The £400 component will be paid via the energy bills, if you are on standard billing then it will be credited to the account, if you are on pre-payment then the exact method is still to be finalised, it could be credits to the meter, vouchers, a combination or something else. 

The £650 will depend exactly on how your UC claim is processed, firstly if any component of it is joint that will complicate things, secondly there is also some confusion about the exact definition of household as far as the payments are concerned as it specifically says "per household", which is nice and clear for some, but when it comes to multiple adults living in the same property (especially HMOs) with separate UC claims then things appear less clear at the moment. Personally my opinion is that as he is your son it will likely mean that there is only one payment to your household, but the exact details are still to be confirmed. 

There is no connection between the two claims though.

Joint claimants are partners claiming UC whose circumstances are assessed together, and get one UC calculation, one UC payment.

OP and their son claim UC separately so their claims are just that - entirely separate.  The only effect OP's son might have on their claim is that him being a non-dependant there might be a deduction from any housing element.  That's nothing to do with him claiming UC though, that's simply because he's a grown adult and not deemed to be dependant on OP.  (If he were a dependant he would not have his own UC claim.)

We both got £20 a week uplift last year, and you are right he is non dependant on me he also has to pay rent due to UC taking around £70 a month off my housing benfits due to him living with me,

Thanks for the reply

poppy12345

Whitebeast said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

MattMattMattUK said:

Whitebeast said:

Hi there Me and my son both claim UC we both work part time 12-16 hours a week we live together,
I understand the £400 will come to me cause I pay the bills. But the one-off £650 payment will we both get that or only the person the househould name is in?

Thanks in advance

The £400 component will be paid via the energy bills, if you are on standard billing then it will be credited to the account, if you are on pre-payment then the exact method is still to be finalised, it could be credits to the meter, vouchers, a combination or something else. 

The £650 will depend exactly on how your UC claim is processed, firstly if any component of it is joint that will complicate things, secondly there is also some confusion about the exact definition of household as far as the payments are concerned as it specifically says "per household", which is nice and clear for some, but when it comes to multiple adults living in the same property (especially HMOs) with separate UC claims then things appear less clear at the moment. Personally my opinion is that as he is your son it will likely mean that there is only one payment to your household, but the exact details are still to be confirmed. 

There is no connection between the two claims though.

Joint claimants are partners claiming UC whose circumstances are assessed together, and get one UC calculation, one UC payment.

OP and their son claim UC separately so their claims are just that - entirely separate.  The only effect OP's son might have on their claim is that him being a non-dependant there might be a deduction from any housing element.  That's nothing to do with him claiming UC though, that's simply because he's a grown adult and not deemed to be dependant on OP.  (If he were a dependant he would not have his own UC claim.)

We both got £20 a week uplift last year, and you are right he is non dependant on me he also has to pay rent due to UC taking around £70 a month off my housing benfits due to him living with me,

Thanks for the reply

The £20 uplift was per "claim" which was clear how it would be paid at the time.

poppy12345

There's a factsheet here. Though it still refers to the £650 as being paid to "households." Those that claimed qualifying benefits after 25th May 2022 will not qualify. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/cost-of-living-support/cost-of-living-support-factsheet-26-may-2022
If it's paid to "households" how will they decide who to pay it to, if more than 1 claims a qualifying means tested benefit.

K1977

I'm just wondering if household income is taken into consideration, my son lives with his dad who works full time and doesn't claim any benefits whereas my son is not currently working and is receiving universal credit but he does contribute towards the household bills and buys his own groceries 

poppy12345

K1977 said:

I'm just wondering if household income is taken into consideration, my son lives with his dad who works full time and doesn't claim any benefits whereas my son is not currently working and is receiving universal credit but he does contribute towards the household bills and buys his own groceries 

Household income isn't taken into consideration.

Rubyroobs

If your son claims UC then he will get the £650. Presumably his dad will be entitled to the £400 credited to his electricity account.

dellymhm

Im assuming its per claimant because cost of living applies to more than just energy. Everything is costing more.