Custom charges VAT on pre-ordered items

Sandtree

LaDerniereSemaine said:

Sam324 said:

molerat said:

Was the parcel marked that import VAT had been paid and with the sender's unique code  ?

Thanks for the link. I don't know at the moment. I will only know when I have the parcel with me.
I guess I will have to pay up to find out.

The VAT that was paid was when we were part of the EU, but the delivery is obviously long after that.

The easiest solution is to get the seller to reimburse you for German VAT and for you to pay the bill to Parcel Force.

If you'd have bought something that took time to be sent out and went past the date we left the EU you might have a case.  In this case, you preordered something that was delivered over a year afterwards.  No chance.

But the German government wont be refunding them the VAT so why should they cover the costs?


Based on your date of order you bought it whilst EU laws still applied and as such you would have paid German VAT and would not be liable for UK taxes. The challenge is that it has been sent to you after the UK laws changed such that new orders from Germany would be 0% German VAT but UK VAT & Duty would be applied and charged to the receiver for orders over £135.

In theory they should have marked the date of sale on the declaration which means customs should have realised previous rules applied to the sale however the standard declaration form doesn't ask for date of sale which is where the mess came from

Thrugelmir

Sandtree said:

LaDerniereSemaine said:

Sam324 said:

molerat said:

Was the parcel marked that import VAT had been paid and with the sender's unique code  ?

Thanks for the link. I don't know at the moment. I will only know when I have the parcel with me.
I guess I will have to pay up to find out.

The VAT that was paid was when we were part of the EU, but the delivery is obviously long after that.

The easiest solution is to get the seller to reimburse you for German VAT and for you to pay the bill to Parcel Force.

If you'd have bought something that took time to be sent out and went past the date we left the EU you might have a case.  In this case, you preordered something that was delivered over a year afterwards.  No chance.

In theory they should have marked the date of sale on the declaration which means customs should have realised previous rules applied to the sale however the standard declaration form doesn't ask for date of sale which is where the mess came from

Date of sale is deemed to be date of dispatch not date of order.  

LaDerniereSemaine

Sandtree said:

LaDerniereSemaine said:

Sam324 said:

molerat said:

Was the parcel marked that import VAT had been paid and with the sender's unique code  ?

Thanks for the link. I don't know at the moment. I will only know when I have the parcel with me.
I guess I will have to pay up to find out.

The VAT that was paid was when we were part of the EU, but the delivery is obviously long after that.

The easiest solution is to get the seller to reimburse you for German VAT and for you to pay the bill to Parcel Force.

If you'd have bought something that took time to be sent out and went past the date we left the EU you might have a case.  In this case, you preordered something that was delivered over a year afterwards.  No chance.

But the German government wont be refunding them the VAT so why should they cover the costs?


Based on your date of order you bought it whilst EU laws still applied and as such you would have paid German VAT and would not be liable for UK taxes. The challenge is that it has been sent to you after the UK laws changed such that new orders from Germany would be 0% German VAT but UK VAT & Duty would be applied and charged to the receiver for orders over £135.

In theory they should have marked the date of sale on the declaration which means customs should have realised previous rules applied to the sale however the standard declaration form doesn't ask for date of sale which is where the mess came from

Yes, they will as it is an export good and VAT is not levied.

The goods have been sent after we left the EU and German VAT is no longer applicable, but UK VAT is.

As I said, the seller needs to reimburse the OP for their VAT and the OP has to pay UK  VAT.  The alternative is that the seller signs up for our VAT scheme and pays the VAT for the OP, but they'd still be out of pocket unless they recover the German VAT.

sheramber

There was a concession from January 21 that the new rules di not apply to goods paid for before 31December 20 but  delivered after 1January 21 


However, gov.uk says from 1 January 22  the new rules apply in full. I wonder if that means the concession no longer applies , even if the goods were paid for before 31 December 20

visidigi

sheramber said:

There was a concession from January 21 that the new rules di not apply to goods paid for before 31December 20 but  delivered after 1January 21 


However, gov.uk says from 1 January 22  the new rules apply in full. I wonder if that means the concession no longer applies , even if the goods were paid for before 31 December 20

The concession requires the shipper to clearly tell customs the date of sale of the importation documentation, in the absence of this they treat the shipping date on the label as the date of sale.