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  • TheJP
    TheJP Posts: 2,013 Forumite
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    Spiderroo said:
    badger09 said:
    I appreciate that as OP was in rental, they presumably didn’t choose to have photos of their possessions posted online. However, anyone who has ever sold a property since ‘t’internet became a thing😊 risks the same. 

    Prospective purchasers or even just ‘browsers’ can bookmark listings & the photos remain available long after the property changed hands. Forever??? Likewise, some RM listings show photos in the property sale history. 

    I think the learning point is, don’t leave anything truly personal, or private, around when photos are taken. 
    Tenants do have the right to choose not to have photos taken, they don’t have to allow the landlord access for anything sale related - no estate agent access to value or photograph the property internally, no viewings, etc. I think a lot of people don’t realise and feel pressured by the agents to cooperate. They can only access the property for essential repairs and checks, flogging the property from under you doesn’t fall in that category. 

    OP - send a written complaint and threaten to go to the ombudsman, it’s a pain for them even if you won’t win. If you didn’t consent to the photos being taken  and/or them accessing your house they have a really big problem. If that’s the case make it very clear in the letter that was what happened and you know it goes against your rights as a tenant. 
    But they gave them permission to take the photos by letting them in and letting them take the pictures. This approach is illogical, I'm guessing the IP belongs to the EA so they will use it at will. 
  • eddddy
    eddddy Posts: 18,511 Forumite
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    I'm slightly confused by this thread.

    If I'm reading it correctly,
    • You moved out of the flat and took all your belongings with you.
    • But there are photos in a lettings agent's listing showing your belongings before you removed them.

    So people seeing the listing will see a bunch of belongings. They won't know who they belong to, they won't know who you are, they won't know your name, they won't know your current address, they won't know where the belongings are now.


    I guess somebody who was desperate to know who those things belonged to could turn detective - and, for example, ask your ex-neighbours who lived in the flat, whether they have a forwarding address etc.

    Is that your concern, or do you see any other risks or potential problems?



  • nrmm
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    eddddy said:

    I'm slightly confused by this thread.

    If I'm reading it correctly,
    • You moved out of the flat and took all your belongings with you.
    • But there are photos in a lettings agent's listing showing your belongings before you removed them.

    So people seeing the listing will see a bunch of belongings. They won't know who they belong to, they won't know who you are, they won't know your name, they won't know your current address, they won't know where the belongings are now.


    I guess somebody who was desperate to know who those things belonged to could turn detective - and, for example, ask your ex-neighbours who lived in the flat, whether they have a forwarding address etc.

    Is that your concern, or do you see any other risks or potential problems?



    You interpreted it all correctly. Also, those pictures were taken when LL and EA entered the premises without consent, whilst I was abroad (although they also took some before I went on leave). They moved some items, etc so that they could put it more to their “liking”. I have all the emails with LL/EA about this.

    As I’ve said, all I’m trying to do creating nuisance and who knows whether there’s some change in law as I quite don’t agree that your items hang on the internet for long as arguably these days it’s easy to trace people.. 
  • Rosa_Damascena
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    edited 15 May 2022 at 5:37PM
    OP - is anything in the pictures identifiable to you? Eg photos?

    Those are the only grounds on which you may have a legal standing.
    No man is worth crawling on this earth.

    So much to read, so little time.
  • RS2OOO
    RS2OOO Posts: 395 Forumite
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    I sympathise with OP in some respects as we had similar situation where we sold house we owned and had a rough ride with the EA, then they marketed for new owner as a letting with same photos of all our personal items (2 of which I took and supplied to EA). I asked them to remove photos and they point blank refused.

    The new owner then pulled plug on EA and decided to market the property himself, still with our pictures, and EA came down on him like a tonne of bricks and photos were removed within a couple of days.

    EA clearly don't like it when its done to them!
  • user1977
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    nrmm said:
    eddddy said:

    I'm slightly confused by this thread.

    If I'm reading it correctly,
    • You moved out of the flat and took all your belongings with you.
    • But there are photos in a lettings agent's listing showing your belongings before you removed them.

    So people seeing the listing will see a bunch of belongings. They won't know who they belong to, they won't know who you are, they won't know your name, they won't know your current address, they won't know where the belongings are now.


    I guess somebody who was desperate to know who those things belonged to could turn detective - and, for example, ask your ex-neighbours who lived in the flat, whether they have a forwarding address etc.

    Is that your concern, or do you see any other risks or potential problems?
    As I’ve said, all I’m trying to do creating nuisance and who knows whether there’s some change in law as I quite don’t agree that your items hang on the internet for long as arguably these days it’s easy to trace people.. 
    Not quite sure what you mean by this, but there's no legal principle I can think of which enables you to have somebody else's photos taken down merely because they include some of your possessions.
  • GDB2222
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    edited 15 May 2022 at 7:13PM
    I wonder how people feel, if they let their house on Air BnB, and find out it's been used for shooting a porno video?



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  • GDB2222
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    user1977 said:
    GDB2222 said:
    I wonder how people feel, if they let their house on Air BnB, and find out it's been used for shooting a porno video?
    Wishing they had charged more?
    I laughed out loud! :smile:


    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • user1977 said:
    nrmm said:
    eddddy said:

    I'm slightly confused by this thread.

    If I'm reading it correctly,
    • You moved out of the flat and took all your belongings with you.
    • But there are photos in a lettings agent's listing showing your belongings before you removed them.

    So people seeing the listing will see a bunch of belongings. They won't know who they belong to, they won't know who you are, they won't know your name, they won't know your current address, they won't know where the belongings are now.


    I guess somebody who was desperate to know who those things belonged to could turn detective - and, for example, ask your ex-neighbours who lived in the flat, whether they have a forwarding address etc.

    Is that your concern, or do you see any other risks or potential problems?
    As I’ve said, all I’m trying to do creating nuisance and who knows whether there’s some change in law as I quite don’t agree that your items hang on the internet for long as arguably these days it’s easy to trace people.. 
    Not quite sure what you mean by this, but there's no legal principle I can think of which enables you to have somebody else's photos taken down merely because they include some of your possessions.
    In this case, OP is saying the photos were taken while LL was in their home illegally. I'm not sure whether there's a law saying I can force a trespasser not to publish photos he took in my house, but there should be. If you tell EA this is the ground for your complaint it might be a bit more persuasive than "because I feel like being a nuisance". (I would feel like it too.)
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