Civil service complusary redundancy

Grumpy_chap

I don't think the OP needs to worry in the immediate term.  This is just politicians making a statement of direction.

My wife is currently claiming JSA and has been enrolled onto a two-week course starting next Monday all about recruitment into the Civil Service and how to present skills from elsewhere as matching the Civil Service requirements.  She asked if the course would go ahead given the announcement and the response was that in the local area there are 3,618 vacancies in the Civil Service and those vacancies still need to be filled as the tasks still need to be done.

If the announcements this week amount to anything, it will be those current vacancies that are the first to go (as in they will never be filled).

I suspect also, the roles will still exist but they will no longer be Civil Service jobs but become outsourced.  

antonic

OrbitHeadache said:

I have got under 2 years service with civil service so today's news regarding civil service job cuts worries me even though told by various people that they expect cuts to be done via natural wastage.

Anyway I worry a lot so was wondering because being under 2 years I suppose they can get rid of us without notice however my contract states;

". Compulsory or Voluntary Redundancy

i) If your employment is terminated on compulsory redundancy terms xxxx will normally give you 6 months’ notice. Voluntary redundancy notice will depend on the offer and circumstances at the time"

Is this more than they legally have to give considering I am under 2 years?

I am a long term Civil Servant (30 + years service) and saw this yesterday.

My take on it is :

1) Its a Goverment announcement by JRM to distract the public from the the ecomomic state the country is in
2) It will take time for ANY decisions to be made - it won`t be you turn up Monday morning and they say your sacked !.
3) They will aim to acheive the reductions through natural wastage - redundancies are a long way away as they are expensive
4) IF you are in a department or work area that will be affected  they will try to redeply you before offering redundancy
5) If you are not a Union member join a Union (they can help you if redundancy is threatened.

lincroft1710

I don't know if it is still the case, but when CS departments needed to shed staff they used to offer voluntary redundancy or early retirement packages (the latter is how I exited CS). These were usually oversubscribed. 

MDMD

lincroft1710 said:

I don't know if it is still the case, but when CS departments needed to shed staff they used to offer voluntary redundancy or early retirement packages (the latter is how I exited CS). These were usually oversubscribed. 

I think under the Civil Service Compensation Scheme they have to offer voluntary redundancies 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/civil-service-compensation-scheme-reformed

https://www.civilservicepensionscheme.org.uk/media/txmh0d2u/cscs-key-facts-and-q-and-a-document-october-2017.pdf

OrbitHeadache

MDMD said:

lincroft1710 said:

I don't know if it is still the case, but when CS departments needed to shed staff they used to offer voluntary redundancy or early retirement packages (the latter is how I exited CS). These were usually oversubscribed. 

I think under the Civil Service Compensation Scheme they have to offer voluntary redundancies 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/civil-service-compensation-scheme-reformed

https://www.civilservicepensionscheme.org.uk/media/txmh0d2u/cscs-key-facts-and-q-and-a-document-october-2017.pdf

That's interesting and confirms what I have been told unofficially the last couple of days.

I am going to to double-check with my union tomorrow but seems my position is relatively secure which is has reassured me.