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Totally confused by "Set Off" and when/if it applies when defending a claim?

HI all

I'm currently defending a claim for non-payment.  We had some work done on the house, and we believe it was to a poor standard.  Some of the contracted work was also not completed.  We therefore did not pay the full amount and the trader has taken legal action.  I have submitted my defence.  

I've been doing some further reading on the subject and am trying to get my head around "set-off" and whether it applies in my circumstance.  In the defence, I part admitted and calculated the amount owed by deducting:

- the amount it would take for another trader to undo and redo the work completed poorly
- the amount to rebuy the materials needed
- the amount for a trader to do the uncompleted work
- a small amount for materials taken from the premises that the claimant didn't own.

The left a small balance of c£50, which is why I part admitted.

What I'm confused about is whether the sum I'm defending is literally just that, or whether it is "set-off". 

Any help would be most appreciated.

Many thanks 

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  • Tunstallstoven
    Tunstallstoven Posts: 1,045 Forumite
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    A little weekend bump for any legal experts out there who might be about to demystify this for me :)  

    To put the question another way, if the Consumer Rights Act Section 49 applies (not completed with reasonable care and skill), and Section 56 is sought as a remedy (price reduction), does that price reduction still count as set-off?

    Many thanks
  • You are doing both. Ideally you would have pleaded the Defence on two points: 1) that the debt isn't owed at all as the works were defective; and 2) even if the debt is due, it will cost £x to put right and therefore the claim is set off by the amount it will cost.

    Don't forget you will still need to prove your set-off as if you were making the claim for the cost.
  • Tunstallstoven
    Tunstallstoven Posts: 1,045 Forumite
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    Hi @Equaliser12345

    Many thanks for your reply.  I think it is starting to make sense now and I can see that set-off does apply in my case...  I think!

    I have done all of the above things you've stated.  I listed and costed what I believe are the amounts needed to re-do the work and to repurchase the materials.  The labour element is based on two quotes. There were also some much smaller amounts for uncompleted work and work not needed, which I have estimated and also deducted.  I've listed it all as clearly as I could.  

    What I haven't done is used the actual term set-off in the defence.  If set-off is obviously what I'm pleading, but I've not actually used the term or directly pleaded it, does that matter?  I've read that the Money Claim / Small Claims system is supposed to make it easier for Litigants In Person and understands that people self-representing won't be familiar with the law.  

    So do you/does anyone know whether it matters if I haven't directly pleaded set-off?

    Thanks again
  • Provided you've used the principle of set-off correctly (and it sounds as though you have), you'll be ok.

    Regarding the proof - the point is you will also need to prove that the rectification work is necessary, not just the value of it.
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