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Do i need to pay thos or not

Received this while taking my kids out for my daughters birthday i went to the carpark right in front of nandos and i went into nandos and was quickly told to move my car or i would receive a fine so i immediately moved my car to another car park up the road and returned and a few days later received this .They must be making a fortune out of this carpark as you would think that this is the car park for nandos as its wrote very small on the sogn in red  but i didnt know this and removed my car straight away.So was wondering do i legally have to pay this as i was only parked there around 1 to 2 mins at the most ,and should nandos have any responsibility for this as surely they know about yhis so shouldnt they have a big sign saying no nandos parking at entrance to carpark.
Please i require only serious answers as i need to sort asap 
Thanks in advance

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  • fisherjim
    fisherjim Posts: 7,016 Forumite
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    edited 4 May 2022 at 4:20PM
    You need to read the newbies thread on here for the right path to follow in fighting these muppets.
    The leaving site scam invoice is very hard for them to pursue, where is their evidence, is there a site plan with the boundary defined?
    Presumably the 1-2 minutes the driver was parked there was while they were reading the signage before deciding to leave the parking spot well within any grace period.
    These chancers will do anything to screw you of your cash, you do not legally have to pay this invoice unless a judge tells you to.
    You have left identifying information on that NTK which needs redacting.

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 149,505 Forumite
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    Read other UKCPS threads.  No-one pays.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • go-on-then
    go-on-then Posts: 330 Forumite
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    edited 4 May 2022 at 7:25PM
    No  'site' boundary shown on the sign.  
    No actual 'site' marked out on the car park or surrounding area.
    They probably won't have any evidence of the driver leaving 'the site'.

    Big struggle on their hands to get this past a judge.  
    Do not name the driver,  it is always 'the defendant'



  • fisherjim
    fisherjim Posts: 7,016 Forumite
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    Looking at Streetview from 2020 if that is still how it is the entrance signage is rubbish, you would need to park up and take around 3minutes to go back and read the T&C's anyway.
  • These were the signs that were visible inside the car parkDe t
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,006 Forumite
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    In a nutshell, UKCPS won't cancel this. I doubt the landowner would either, but you won't know unless you try. So, you have to work through all the phases of this until a Judge is potentially involved. The case is 'live' from a litigation point of view for 6 years. If you change your address within those 6 years you must inform UKCPS of your new address. 

    At the time of writing, UKCPS haven't sued anyone for a number of years. That's about the top and bottom of things. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • So how do i go through thr process as i havent clue where yo start eith this 
    Thanks
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,284 Forumite
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    yatty2022 said:
    So how do i go through thr process as i havent clue where yo start eith this 
    Thanks
    Re-read the first two replies you received on this thread.
  • go-on-then
    go-on-then Posts: 330 Forumite
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    Look for the ' Newbies'  thread,  it gives a step by step guide of what to do.

    You may have to read it a few times to get your head around how things work etc but as people have pointed out,  this is one that is easy to beat for the reasons already given to you. 


  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 149,505 Forumite
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    yatty2022 said:
    So how do i go through thr process as i havent clue where yo start eith this 
    Read the advice already given.   You'd know what to do if you read the Newbies thread.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
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