†ips to find Shed (stable) power line. which was cut to the ground by previous owner.

sujsuj

My previous owner just cut wire that supplied power to my Shed (stable) . Now I am struggling to find from where the wire connection originates in my house...? 

I managed to find other end of wire which was cut, but not able to find where its connecting to as it seems to be under the grass. I bought a metal detector to find the other piece of wire but unable to detect anything in line except some random metal pieces..

Is there any usual way or rule where from which electric connection to stable is taken from home..? I have a conservatory next to this as well. Also I have a timber garage from which connection is taken to Gate . Nearest part to stable is the conservatory area. I am also thinking since this was 20 years old setup there any rule such connection need to take from..?  Any tips..?

My plan is to find that other piece and connect together if I can, expecting other piece  under the grass in a plastic pipe or something..see photos.

FaceHead

When you track down the other half of the cable and trace it back to the house, I recommend you remove it, and change it for SWA (Steel Wire Armoured) cable. This will prevent any future (potentially fatal) mishaps like this.

I would also be worried about the wiring inside the shed, given that this must have been installed by a complete cowboy. 

DB1904

sujsuj said:

My previous owner just cut wire that supplied power to my Shed (stable) . Now I am struggling to find from where the wire connection originates in my house...? 

I managed to find other end of wire which was cut, but not able to find where its connecting to as it seems to be under the grass. I bought a metal detector to find the other piece of wire but unable to detect anything in line except some random metal pieces..

Is there any usual way or rule where from which electric connection to stable is taken from home..? I have a conservatory next to this as well. Also I have a timber garage from which connection is taken to Gate . Nearest part to stable is the conservatory area. I am also thinking since this was 20 years old setup there any rule such connection need to take from..?  Any tips..?

My plan is to find that other piece and connect together if I can, expecting other piece  under the grass in a plastic pipe or something..see photos.

You're not worried about safety or current electrical regs then?

FreeBear

DB1904 said:

sujsuj said:

My previous owner just cut wire that supplied power to my Shed (stable) . Now I am struggling to find from where the wire connection originates in my house...? 

I managed to find other end of wire which was cut, but not able to find where its connecting to as it seems to be under the grass. I bought a metal detector to find the other piece of wire but unable to detect anything in line except some random metal pieces..

Is there any usual way or rule where from which electric connection to stable is taken from home..? I have a conservatory next to this as well. Also I have a timber garage from which connection is taken to Gate . Nearest part to stable is the conservatory area. I am also thinking since this was 20 years old setup there any rule such connection need to take from..?  Any tips..?

My plan is to find that other piece and connect together if I can, expecting other piece  under the grass in a plastic pipe or something..see photos.

You're not worried about safety or current electrical regs then?

Running power out to a shed is a notifiable work and will either require sign-off by Building Control or a Part P certificate from a qualified electrician.

The cable should be steel armoured (SWA) and buried at least 450mm below the surface. Deeper if there is a chance that the ground may be disturbed. It may be possible to run the cable overhead depending on local conditions..

If you do not recognize the fact that PVC covered T+E is totally unacceptable for power out to a shed, you really do need a qualified electrician in to do the work.

Nearlyold

sujsuj said:

My previous owner just cut wire that supplied power to my Shed (stable) . Now I am struggling to find from where the wire connection originates in my house...? 

I managed to find other end of wire which was cut, but not able to find where its connecting to as it seems to be under the grass. I bought a metal detector to find the other piece of wire but unable to detect anything in line except some random metal pieces..

Is there any usual way or rule where from which electric connection to stable is taken from home..? I have a conservatory next to this as well. Also I have a timber garage from which connection is taken to Gate . Nearest part to stable is the conservatory area. I am also thinking since this was 20 years old setup there any rule such connection need to take from..?  Any tips..?

My plan is to find that other piece and connect together if I can, expecting other piece  under the grass in a plastic pipe or something..see photos.

I don't think whoever installed that wiring was bothered about rules - that set up is awful.

At a guess I'd say the most likely place the other end of the cable  was attached to would be the back of a ground floor socket on a house wall that faces the shed. It should have been dis-connected when the cable was cut but who knows.

For your own and your family's safety I'd recommend getting a qualified electrician in to sort it.



 

Eldi_Dos

The first line of your post really should have set your alarm bells going. It is difficult to see your logic and intentions but fun and innovative ways of fault finding on a power system that has such a large red flag are not the way to go.
You need to get competent people in to sort this out and cost should be of secondary consideration.

FaceHead

FreeBear said:

DB1904 said:

sujsuj said:

My previous owner just cut wire that supplied power to my Shed (stable) . Now I am struggling to find from where the wire connection originates in my house...? 

I managed to find other end of wire which was cut, but not able to find where its connecting to as it seems to be under the grass. I bought a metal detector to find the other piece of wire but unable to detect anything in line except some random metal pieces..

Is there any usual way or rule where from which electric connection to stable is taken from home..? I have a conservatory next to this as well. Also I have a timber garage from which connection is taken to Gate . Nearest part to stable is the conservatory area. I am also thinking since this was 20 years old setup there any rule such connection need to take from..?  Any tips..?

My plan is to find that other piece and connect together if I can, expecting other piece  under the grass in a plastic pipe or something..see photos.

You're not worried about safety or current electrical regs then?

Running power out to a shed is a notifiable work and will either require sign-off by Building Control or a Part P certificate from a qualified electrician.

The cable should be steel armoured (SWA) and buried at least 450mm below the surface. Deeper if there is a chance that the ground may be disturbed. It may be possible to run the cable overhead depending on local conditions..

If you do not recognize the fact that PVC covered T+E is totally unacceptable for power out to a shed, you really do need a qualified electrician in to do the work.

Completely agree that the OP either has a lot of homework to do, or more realistically needs the help of someone qualified as they don't seem to have recognised the problem with the installation that has brought this situation about. 

Is re-running (or indeed the initial running of) the power out to the shed notifiable work? Outdoors is no longer a special location in England (still is in Wales), so I would have thought it is only notifiable if it is a new circuit - i.e. the cable run all the way back to the CU. If tapping into, say, the ground floor sockets and extending it outside (via a fused spur) to have sockets and/or lights in a shed I thought this wouldn't have been notifiable, as it's not a new circuit (or bathroom). In the OP's case, it's unclear if the shed is spurred off a previous circuit, or if it has its own circuit. 

Welcome views on whether spuring a shed off an existing circuit it's notifiable, as it's somewhere down my to-do list, and I was intending to do it myself. 

FreeBear

FaceHead said:  Is re-running (or indeed the initial running of) the power out to the shed notifiable work? Outdoors is no longer a special location in England (still is in Wales), so I would have thought it is only notifiable if it is a new circuit - i.e. the cable run all the way back to the CU. If tapping into, say, the ground floor sockets and extending it outside (via a fused spur) to have sockets and/or lights in a shed I thought this wouldn't have been notifiable, as it's not a new circuit (or bathroom). In the OP's case, it's unclear if the shed is spurred off a previous circuit, or if it has its own circuit. 

Welcome views on whether spuring a shed off an existing circuit it's notifiable, as it's somewhere down my to-do list, and I was intending to do it myself. 

Installing an external security light or outdoor socket, not notifiable in England. Running a cable out to a shed with a single socket at the end, again, (probably) not notifiable. Running power out to a shed from the ring main and feeding multiple sockets & lights is probably pushing the "not notifiable" too far and be way too much for a fused 13A spur - One should be fitting a consumer unit along with suitable protection devices in the shed and running it off a dedicated circuit from the main CU.