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Woodex - any experience regarding sash windows?

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  • Skag
    Skag Posts: 480 Forumite
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    Yes 100% I’m guessing your home has some age to it hence the sash windows, should you remove any of the old timbers look at the grain it will be really tight, that’s slowly grown timber you just don’t get it now.

    I'm completely oblivious to timber, I only know how to see knots :) I don't know of the different grain types, I'll look it up though, thanks.
    Yeah, the flat was built in the 1910s or so...

    I hope noise levels will be reduced going from old single pane, rattling sash windows to new double glazed ones?!
  • travis-powers
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    Skag said:
    Yes 100% I’m guessing your home has some age to it hence the sash windows, should you remove any of the old timbers look at the grain it will be really tight, that’s slowly grown timber you just don’t get it now.

    I'm completely oblivious to timber, I only know how to see knots :) I don't know of the different grain types, I'll look it up though, thanks.
    Yeah, the flat was built in the 1910s or so...

    I hope noise levels will be reduced going from old single pane, rattling sash windows to new double glazed ones?!
    I assume he will be using slimline glazing, but will be built with draught proofing expensive but will add value to your home.
    Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene.'
  • Skag
    Skag Posts: 480 Forumite
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    Skag said:
    Yes 100% I’m guessing your home has some age to it hence the sash windows, should you remove any of the old timbers look at the grain it will be really tight, that’s slowly grown timber you just don’t get it now.

    I'm completely oblivious to timber, I only know how to see knots :) I don't know of the different grain types, I'll look it up though, thanks.
    Yeah, the flat was built in the 1910s or so...

    I hope noise levels will be reduced going from old single pane, rattling sash windows to new double glazed ones?!
    I assume he will be using slimline glazing, but will be built with draught proofing expensive but will add value to your home.

    No idea, I suppose it'll be whatever they use for double glazing to replace a like for like sash window...
    Draft proofing also I would expect to be installed since it's a new window. Something to also check though, thanks.
  • casper_gutman
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    I would expect a very noticeable reduction in noise with the new windows. Even just having our single glazed sash windows refurbished and draught proofed helped enormously, and the double glazing should make it even better.
  • Bendy_House
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    'Solid' timber, especially most softwoods, are reliant to a large degree on where, in the source timber, it has been cut from - where, and how far, from the heart of the trunk; some will be more prone to warping than others - just look at the way timber floorboards 'cup'. Also, knots in 'solid' timber will likely be going right through a sizeable part of the thickness, so could cause long term issues, depending on the size of the timber.

    Engineered timber takes care of both issues. The laminated pieces balance out the warping element, and any knots will only go as far as each piece's thickness.
  • Skag
    Skag Posts: 480 Forumite
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    'Solid' timber, especially most softwoods, are reliant to a large degree on where, in the source timber, it has been cut from - where, and how far, from the heart of the trunk; some will be more prone to warping than others - just look at the way timber floorboards 'cup'. Also, knots in 'solid' timber will likely be going right through a sizeable part of the thickness, so could cause long term issues, depending on the size of the timber.

    Engineered timber takes care of both issues. The laminated pieces balance out the warping element, and any knots will only go as far as each piece's thickness.

    Nice, good to know. So in other words, engineered timber could be seen as "treated" timber for joinery purposes.
  • Bendy_House
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    Skag said:
    'Solid' timber, especially most softwoods, are reliant to a large degree on where, in the source timber, it has been cut from - where, and how far, from the heart of the trunk; some will be more prone to warping than others - just look at the way timber floorboards 'cup'. Also, knots in 'solid' timber will likely be going right through a sizeable part of the thickness, so could cause long term issues, depending on the size of the timber.

    Engineered timber takes care of both issues. The laminated pieces balance out the warping element, and any knots will only go as far as each piece's thickness.

    Nice, good to know. So in other words, engineered timber could be seen as "treated" timber for joinery purposes.
    Not 'treated' - that implies protected against decay - but more 'stabilised', I guess. It should perform better, cause fewer issues, work better. 

    I became aware of it when bro bought sash windows for his flat, and that's when I read about the heat treatment - it apparently changes the 'cellular structure' of the timber (on the surface at least, I guess), and this makes it very resistant to rot. 

    Worth a read - it's quite interesting :-)
  • Bendy_House
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    edited 2 May 2022 at 3:30PM
    Oh, and bro paid extra for the guys to swap the DG for single - he likes to hear the sound of rain against glass... :neutral:
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