Council tax letter from a shared house I rented 4 years ago?

hussnainh8

I have given up as I can't seem to find my tenancy agreement anywhere.. it was a paper copy and was given to me 4 years ago.. I can't for the life of me remember where's it's gone it's not going my way to be honest

hussnainh8

If I request a copy again from my landlord am I entitled to the copy or can she refuse?

GDB2222

hussnainh8 said:

If I request a copy again from my landlord am I entitled to the copy or can she refuse?

You are probably entitled to your personal data under GDPR. However, if she says she doesn’t have it any more, there’s nothing much you can do.  You can try involving the ICO, but they are not much help.

 As you have the agreement for the neighbouring room, that’s reasonable evidence.

lincroft1710

GDB2222 said:

HampshireH said:

Have you spoken to the council yet?

I agree. If necessary, the op should make a formal complaint to the council. This will put a hold on any enforcement action by the council, which buys her a little time. It also means that the whole thing gets looked at properly by someone at the council with their brain switched on. So, she may get an explanation of what is going on.

She can also issue proceedings against the landlord. As she’s on benefits, she should not have to pay any court fees. 

Hopefully, the LL should pay this one way or another. 

There is little point in making a complaint to the council.


If a dwelling is shown in the Valuation List, councils are legally obliged to charge the liable person for their period of occupation of that dwelling. The council are therefore correct in charging the OP for the period of her occupation of the room as it was shown in the Valuation List as a separate dwelling from 1 April 2017 to 22 July 2018. The OP cannot appeal the fact the room had its own CT band, as 1) the assessment for the room was deleted from the Valuation List and 2) she is no longer the occupier.


Although this may seem morally wrong and unfair it is lawful and unfortunately the council are not acting unlawfully.

GDB2222

lincroft1710 said:

GDB2222 said:

HampshireH said:

Have you spoken to the council yet?

I agree. If necessary, the op should make a formal complaint to the council. This will put a hold on any enforcement action by the council, which buys her a little time. It also means that the whole thing gets looked at properly by someone at the council with their brain switched on. So, she may get an explanation of what is going on.

She can also issue proceedings against the landlord. As she’s on benefits, she should not have to pay any court fees. 

Hopefully, the LL should pay this one way or another. 

There is little point in making a complaint to the council.


If a dwelling is shown in the Valuation List, councils are legally obliged to charge the liable person for their period of occupation of that dwelling. The council are therefore correct in charging the OP for the period of her occupation of the room as it was shown in the Valuation List as a separate dwelling from 1 April 2017 to 22 July 2018. The OP cannot appeal the fact the room had its own CT band, as 1) the assessment for the room was deleted from the Valuation List and 2) she is no longer the occupier.


Although this may seem morally wrong and unfair it is lawful and unfortunately the council are not acting unlawfully.

I agree. However, the OP says she doesn't have the £700. So, she needs to buy time whilst she tries to get the LL to pay.

lincroft1710

GDB2222 said:

lincroft1710 said:

GDB2222 said:

HampshireH said:

Have you spoken to the council yet?

I agree. If necessary, the op should make a formal complaint to the council. This will put a hold on any enforcement action by the council, which buys her a little time. It also means that the whole thing gets looked at properly by someone at the council with their brain switched on. So, she may get an explanation of what is going on.

She can also issue proceedings against the landlord. As she’s on benefits, she should not have to pay any court fees. 

Hopefully, the LL should pay this one way or another. 

There is little point in making a complaint to the council.


If a dwelling is shown in the Valuation List, councils are legally obliged to charge the liable person for their period of occupation of that dwelling. The council are therefore correct in charging the OP for the period of her occupation of the room as it was shown in the Valuation List as a separate dwelling from 1 April 2017 to 22 July 2018. The OP cannot appeal the fact the room had its own CT band, as 1) the assessment for the room was deleted from the Valuation List and 2) she is no longer the occupier.


Although this may seem morally wrong and unfair it is lawful and unfortunately the council are not acting unlawfully.

I agree. However, the OP says she doesn't have the £700. So, she needs to buy time whilst she tries to get the LL to pay.

Far more sensible to contact council and try to set up payment plan than making pointless attempts to buy time for something that probably isn't going to happen. The LL has no obligation to pay the CT. All OP can do is seek recompense from LL for the amount that was included in the rent for CT. Which may be difficult as OP no longer has a copy of the tenancy agreement. I would also doubt that the LL could show a breakdown of the rent showing the amount included for CT.

So it would be difficult for the OP to bring a successful claim using MCOL.


Given OP's financial situation, there is a slim possibility that the council may write off the debt, but that may be wishful thinking