Extra Large Radiators

Happy_Sloth

I need an extra large radiator for my living room.

i found a website that calculates the BTU's and it seems to think it needs 22509 which seems a lot but it's a big room with a massive baywindow and 2 external walls.

The radiator thats in there currently is a 2600mm wide cast iron radiator but it does for the most part seem to sufficiently heat the room although granted it does take the room a couple of hours to get to a comfortable temperature in the winter,  but i seriously doubt it kicks out that many BTU's.  

I was going to simply look for a radiator a similar size to replace the one we have but it appears radiators in that size are very hard to get i've found a couple online but they are £2000-£4000 which seems crazy for a radiator.

I would consider keeping the radiator that already exists as it's in working order but we need to decorate the room.  You can tell the last time the previous owners decorated they didn't take it off the wall as the old wallpaper is still visible behind it. 

However the brackets are broken, it's somewhat hanging off the wall at the moment.  I don't want to take it off if i can't get it back on the wall i can't find the type of brackets it uses to replace them.  I've attached a picture incase anyone knows what type of bracket it is.  

Can anyone suggest a solution which isn't going to cost £2000-£4000?? because that's crazy money for a radiator and i simply don't have it.  

  

  

Ebe_Scrooge

Maybe I'm being over-simplistic, but is there any reason you can't just replace it with 2 (or even 3) more "standard and easy to get hold of" radiators?  Obviously they'll take up more wall space overall, and there'll be a bit of extra pipework to factor in.  In my living room (admittedly a relatively new house) there are two radiators, each on separate walls. 

grumbler

Happy_Sloth said:

However the brackets are broken, it's somewhat hanging off the wall at the moment.  I don't want to take it off if i can't get it back on the wall i can't find the type of brackets it uses to replace them.  I've attached a picture incase anyone knows what type of bracket it is.  
 

Post a photo of the corresponding part at the back of the radiator.

ETA: and you can always replace a big radiator with two smaller ones.

Happy_Sloth

Ebe_Scrooge said:

Maybe I'm being over-simplistic, but is there any reason you can't just replace it with 2 (or even 3) more "standard and easy to get hold of" radiators?  Obviously they'll take up more wall space overall, and there'll be a bit of extra pipework to factor in.  In my living room (admittedly a relatively new house) there are two radiators, each on separate walls. 

i have considered that,  but we only have the 1 wall available for radiators to they would both need to be on the existing wall, which seems a bit of a pain. 

bengalknights

You can get 3 8000 BTU radiators for around £200 each and then just repipe

Happy_Sloth

grumbler said:

Happy_Sloth said:

However the brackets are broken, it's somewhat hanging off the wall at the moment.  I don't want to take it off if i can't get it back on the wall i can't find the type of brackets it uses to replace them.  I've attached a picture incase anyone knows what type of bracket it is.  
 

Post a photo of the corresponding part at the back of the radiator.

ETA: and you can always replace a big radiator with two smaller ones.

The part is the bit you can see on the photo,  that part of the bracket i think somehow clipped onto the top of the radiator.  

The only think holding the radiator up now is the piping at the bottom and the fact that it's leaning on a couch haha.  

grumbler

Happy_Sloth said:

grumbler said:

Happy_Sloth said:

However the brackets are broken, it's somewhat hanging off the wall at the moment.  I don't want to take it off if i can't get it back on the wall i can't find the type of brackets it uses to replace them.  I've attached a picture incase anyone knows what type of bracket it is.  
 

Post a photo of the corresponding part at the back of the radiator.

ETA: and you can always replace a big radiator with two smaller ones.

The part is the bit you can see on the photo,  that part of the bracket i think somehow clipped onto the top of the radiator.  

The only think holding the radiator up now is the piping at the bottom and the fact that it's leaning on a couch haha.  

Are you saying that there is no anything at the back? That's hard to believe.

However, if it's supported somehow at the bottom and the only purpose of this bracket was to keep it vertical, then it's easy to improvise something similar.

Happy_Sloth

grumbler said:

Happy_Sloth said:

grumbler said:

Happy_Sloth said:

However the brackets are broken, it's somewhat hanging off the wall at the moment.  I don't want to take it off if i can't get it back on the wall i can't find the type of brackets it uses to replace them.  I've attached a picture incase anyone knows what type of bracket it is.  
 

Post a photo of the corresponding part at the back of the radiator.

ETA: and you can always replace a big radiator with two smaller ones.

The part is the bit you can see on the photo,  that part of the bracket i think somehow clipped onto the top of the radiator.  

The only think holding the radiator up now is the piping at the bottom and the fact that it's leaning on a couch haha.  

Are you saying that there is no anything at the back? That's hard to believe.

However, if it's supported somehow at the bottom and the only purpose of this bracket was to keep it vertical, then it's easy to improvise something similar.

There is nothing at the back (Except for some random junk that fell down the back haha 

Doozergirl

That radiator won't be efficient at all. 

I would say to have two radiators as it spreads the heat more evenly across a room, reducing cold spots, but if you think the the radiator you have is 'okay' then you'll be blown away by a modern one. 

Perhaps it's worth just trying one of the largest type 22 radiators that will throw off over 11,000 BTU. 

https://www.bestheating.com/milano-compact-type-22-double-panel-convector-radiator-choice-of-size-radiator-cabinet-99155

I'm sure there is room for another radiator somewhere.  How is the room laid out? If it's that big the furniture can be placed away from the wall with no compromise to
space.  

Happy_Sloth

Doozergirl said:

That radiator won't be efficient at all. 

I would say to have two radiators as it spreads the heat more evenly across a room, reducing cold spots, but if you think the the radiator you have is 'okay' then you'll be blown away by a modern one. 

Perhaps it's worth just trying one of the largest type 22 radiators that will throw off over 11,000 BTU. 

https://www.bestheating.com/milano-compact-type-22-double-panel-convector-radiator-choice-of-size-radiator-cabinet-99155

I'm sure there is room for another radiator somewhere.  How is the room laid out? If it's that big the furniture can be placed away from the wall with no compromise to
space.  

The have 2 external walls, one dominated almost 100% by a massive bay window so no room for a radiator there,  the other external wall has cupboards/units and a fireplace (We are getting a small gas fire installed, it's not going to give out enough BTU's to head the room alone,  but there where loads of restrictions on what would fit as we are putting it into an existing fireplace, so it's only a 2.8kw fire)  

The other 2 walls are internal, one has the current radiator the other could possibly have a new radiator but there is a couch along it currently,  i'm trying to set the room up with the couches pulled into the middle more as currently i suspect we warm the couch more than the room, but the current radiator needs the couch for support.  

I'm just concerned that if all the couches are in the middle (Big L:Shaped, 2 seater and 1 single) there wont be space to move around,  which is will i was hoping to keep the small couch up against the wall. 

FreeBear

22509 BTU is ~6.6KW - That is a lot of heat !

Try using this calculator and see what it comes up with - https://www.bestheating.com/btu-calculator

Replacing your existing Type 20 with a similar sized Type 21 would (in my opinion) provide a bit more heat without sacrificing wall space or requiring extra plumbing. You could go to a Type 22 radiator, but I find them to be too intrusive in most rooms (they stick out a long way from the wall). You can also get fan assisted convector heaters that are quite compact - https://thermix.co.uk/fan-convectors/habanero2100c/ - Might be an option if you have power close by that you can tap in to.