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My parents downsizing dilemma..

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  • dimbo61
    dimbo61 Posts: 13,727 Forumite
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    edited 24 April 2022 at 7:51PM
    My Dad sold his house over 16 years ago when he turned 70 and moved into a  Sheltered accommodation flat in Chorlton.
    He loves being able to walk a short distance into Chorlton and do his shopping, get a meal or have a pint.
    He has also enjoyed spending his savings on nice holidays.
    The house will sell in the current market and there are flats available.
    Forget about trying to buy it.
    Help your parents get it valued and sold
    Check out local housing association flats.

    https://housingcare.org/housing-care/facility-info-16253-mere-court-knutsford-england
  • dimbo61
    dimbo61 Posts: 13,727 Forumite
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    edited 24 April 2022 at 7:46PM
    My Dad sold his house over 16 years ago when he turned 70 and moved into a  Sheltered accommodation flat in Chorlton.
    He loves being able to walk a short distance into Chorlton and do his shopping, get a meal or have a pint.
    He has also enjoyed spending his savings on nice holidays.
    The house will sell in the current market and there are flats available.
    Forget about trying to buy it.
    Help your parents get it valued and sold
    Check out local housing association flats 

    https://www.riverside.org.uk
  • SuseOrm
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    My advice would be to just Sell it and downsize asap.  
    I was looking at beautiful properties in amazing condition everything done looked fantastic and derelict shells and there was very little between the two in terms of price at the moment your best bet would be to just get rid of it and downsize although in all honesty in terms of bungalows they tend to sell for more than houses.  
  • luvchocolate
    luvchocolate Posts: 3,387 Forumite
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    I agree with the majority on here to sell the house on the open market. 
    Research all the housing association providers in your area for over 55s. 
    It doesn't matter how much money/properties they have. They will obviously have to pay rent until their supply gets lower. 
    Best thing I ever did..depending on their health depends on where they start on the list. 
    My housing association you also have to apply put your name on the council list. 
    I had a 3 year wait as mine was a want not a need. 
    I've seen people move in here within weeks of applying 
  • TBagpuss
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    I'd suggest that you speak to your parents about getting an agent in to value the property as it stands, then think about downsizing.

    Depending on the value of the house, they may be able to afford to buy a bungalow or other property outright. 

    They would be unlikely to qualify for a council property as they have the mean to house themselves but you could check out sheltered housing as this might be appropriate, if they are likely to need support in the near future. 

    Can you parents afford the urgent repairs such as the roof? If not, can you or your sister afford to lend them the money to get that done, so that it doesn't deteriorate further.

    If your mum is unwilling to let people in because of the condition of the house would she be open to you and your sister coming and doing a thorough deep clean / declutter? Which might be useful if they decide to sell, as well as to improve it in the short term. 

    You could look into the cost of getting a stair lift and getting the bathroom redone (perhaps with a walk-in bath or shower) and looking into whether there would be any grants or other help available, but it sounds as though selling any buying something smaller would be the preferred option.

    If you mum is determined to stay out, then you could get quotes for all the work that would be needed and then encourage them to look into an equity release mortgage, but if they go down that route, they would still have all the hassle of getting the work done and may still fid that buying somewhere new that's smaller, cheaper to run, and more suited to their current needs, is the better option

    All posts are my personal opinion, not formal advice Always get proper, professional advice (particularly about anything legal!)
  • This is complicated .If Parents stay put ...
    Regarding the boiler if your parents stay put one should be able to get a grant paying a minimal amount ,as homeowner +universal credit says You can . I'm not sure if the current boiler needs to be deemed unusable or words to that effect to get it . There is a cutting point for applications in the year from energy companies . 

    It may be an idea to get an occupational therapist to see about getting new bathroom/ shower installed due to mobility issues . They would come around and assess what would improve their way of life and get things installed to improve your parents quality of life in their home .  The downside , is that DWP would take back some money when your parents sell . 
    Also as mentioned above , it would be nice if you and your sister did a nice deep clean regardless so that your parents are comfortable , and that your mother wouldn't be too proud / embarresed to let people in . 

    If you are trying to buy the home with your sister ...
    All I can see is the rattling of hornets nests as mortgage providers who you are with will start looking at " affordability ".  I'd guess that would mean a lot of justification to the lenders that you can afford it and they may say you can't . 
    Then there is the costly legal stuff between you, your sister and your parents .
    This would probably at some stage involve a deed of trust betweeen you and your sister plus from your parents to yourselves . 
    How secure are both you and your sisters jobs ?
    If it was a more expensive property then equity release may have been an option, but imho it's too risky for the amount . 

    As stated above , if benefits are means tested then if the house was sold your parents would lose out on those . The benefits board should be able to guide you.

    After saying all of that , I don't think your parents have a chance of getting a Coincil property . Pipe dream . 

    Also as mentioned above , those retirement homes are expensive ( service charges etc) and hard to sell on . 

    If either you or your sister never had a mortgage then things would be more appealing.
    Much more doable 

    Good luck in what you decide ..
  • RAS
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    People are advising the Op to look for sheltered housing, or housing association properties limited to over 55s, which are more often available than Council houses.

    No-one is suggesting they buy a retirement flat, with high service charges and difficulty selling after death.
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • gwynlas
    gwynlas Posts: 2,227 Forumite
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    Depending on where they are prepared to move there are a number of bungalows availble in greater Manchester beloe 200k.
    Another option might be to take equiity release to xtend the ground floor of their property to make it suitable to use as an apartment for them to live in disregarding upstairs for now.
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