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ballpark to extend garage

Looked at a property which ticks all boxes but...
Single garage (with bedroom above) is too narrow for car (seller alsoclearly has this issue as it's full of shelf stacks/storage). Might get car in but then couldn't open car door.
Next to the garage is a carport, but this is the same width! Seller seems to park sideways on in front of these two.
So if I knocked down the external garage wall, and turned the carport/existing garage into a double width garage what would be a ballpark budget? I assume as there's a bedroom above, a newload bearing beam would be needed.

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  • Section62
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    Looked at a property which ticks all boxes but...
    Single garage (with bedroom above) is too narrow for car (seller alsoclearly has this issue as it's full of shelf stacks/storage). Might get car in but then couldn't open car door.
    Next to the garage is a carport, but this is the same width! Seller seems to park sideways on in front of these two.
    So if I knocked down the external garage wall, and turned the carport/existing garage into a double width garage what would be a ballpark budget? I assume as there's a bedroom above, a newload bearing beam would be needed.

    It is likely to be a complicated (and expensive) project to deal with the structural alterations and getting insulation/fireproofing done correctly.  The beam(s) to replace the existing ground floor portion of the wall will need to be fairly substantial - and will need a large pier to support the load at the door end.  This is going to restrict the opening widths... unless you went for an even more complex structural solution...

    Is there any scope to widen just the carport part?
  • Presumably it would be much easier (and thus cheaper) to knock the end wall of the garage and the bedroom out and extend both together, as it sounds like a supporting beam might not then be needed?
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  • Section62
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    Presumably it would be much easier (and thus cheaper) to knock the end wall of the garage and the bedroom out and extend both together, as it sounds like a supporting beam might not then be needed?
    Some form of beam would still be required to support the ceiling/floor between the ground and first floors, although less substantial than that to support the upper half of a gable wall.

    It would mean it becomes a two-storey extension with the need to apply for planning consent - and if the layout is such that there is no room to extend the car port sideways then the prospects for getting approval for a two-storey extension may not be that good.
  • Before getting carried away with the notion of maximising the width available OP, please don't underrate the importance of side access to the rear (speaks the voice of bitter experience). 


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  • GDB2222
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    edited 24 April 2022 at 7:27AM
    The only cheap solution that I can think of is to knock out just a chunk of the side wall. You only need a section big enough to open the car door and get out of the car. So, maybe 2 metres long. The steel and the piers will be suitably insubstantial, and maybe the piers can be mainly in the car port area? You will want an electric remotely operated door, probably.  

    I originally thought of a sliding door, but if there’s room for it to open into the car port area, why not a standard sort of hinged door?  Or a roller shutter?
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    I'll just add that you can get away with a lot less than 2m, and I’ve seen this done with a standard door size, which obviously simplified construction, but meant positioning the car very carefully. 

    Anyway, I'll leave you with the thought that maybe you don’t need a wider garage, just a means of getting out of the car. Surprisingly, I can’t find any cars with a sliding driver’s door. 
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  • GDB2222 said:
    I'll just add that you can get away with a lot less than 2m, and I’ve seen this done with a standard door size, which obviously simplified construction, but meant positioning the car very carefully. 

    Anyway, I'll leave you with the thought that maybe you don’t need a wider garage, just a means of getting out of the car. Surprisingly, I can’t find any cars with a sliding driver’s door. 
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    GDB2222 said:
    I'll just add that you can get away with a lot less than 2m, and I’ve seen this done with a standard door size, which obviously simplified construction, but meant positioning the car very carefully. 

    Anyway, I'll leave you with the thought that maybe you don’t need a wider garage, just a means of getting out of the car. Surprisingly, I can’t find any cars with a sliding driver’s door. 
    https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/peugeot/1007/3780/peugeot-1007-pictures
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    GDB2222 said: Anyway, I'll leave you with the thought that maybe you don’t need a wider garage, just a means of getting out of the car. Surprisingly, I can’t find any cars with a sliding driver’s door. 
    Or a vehicle without doors


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    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165211647657

    I don’t know which is more surprising, the£18k price, or the 51k mileage? It means that people are actually driving the thing around. 
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