Offset mortgage calculation

Does anyone what the calculation is to work out the saving on an offset mortgage?

I know there are online calculators but would prefer the sum.

Thank you

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  • dimbo61
    dimbo61 Posts: 13,727 Forumite
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    edited 21 April 2022 at 7:33PM
    Your mortgage balance increases every day as Interest is added and decreases when you pay the mortgage once a month !
    If you add or take money out of your Offset account then the Offset Mortgage balance can also change daily.
    I Love Offset mortgages having now had 3 with YBS, Woolwich and now Barclay's.
    The ability to keep a large sum of money in an offset account which we can tap into when needed and which also reduces the amount of Interest we pay on the mortgage debt each month.

    Trying to work out how much you save each Day/Month/Year can be somewhat difficult
    However our monthly statement from our lender breaks down the savings each day
  • 330d
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    Thanks. I presume your on a offset tracker with Barclays?
  • izawa
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    Offset mortgages are nice if you have 20% of mortgage balance as savings. Think of this, your average savings balance across the month, it gets deducted from the outstanding mortgage balance. The interest is calculated on the remaining.
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  • dimbo61
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    edited 22 April 2022 at 10:50PM
    Yes we have an Offset mortgage with Barclays.
    It was on a tracker deal 
    We get a monthly statement which tells us how much we saved each day by the offset accounts  and how much interest we paid 
  • getmore4less
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    Barclays add the interest once a month, based on the daily net balance accumulated over the month

    daily interest with  monthly compounding

    In many cases the default interest day is the end of month(appears on the 1st) and the payment date was the 16th.

    One useful feature with Barclays is you can load up and ISA and offset that if you don't have any other ISA


    One simple calculation for an offset mortgage is what offset pot is break even.

    You need to know the saving rate the offset rate and the regular rate to decide if the offset works.

    simple ratio of the rates and amounts.
    M : mortgage debt
    S : standard rate
    O : offset rate

    C : savings capital
    N : net savings rate

    C/M == (O-S)/(O-N)


    For Barclays using the reward range, 
    offsets are only competitive at the higher LTV
    for a 60% LTV these are the 2y choices.

    Offset : 2.75% 2y tracker base + 2.00%  £499 fee

    regular : 1.75% 2y tracker base+ 0.99% £0 fee 
     
    savings easy to find 0.5%

    C/M=1.25/2.25==55.5% offset(adjust for fees)

    use your own numbers

    There is a long running thread on offsets

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/471/offset-mortgages-the-numbers

    Offsets often don't save money  unless you can find cheap money to offset(stooze) or the ratio above that needed to break even.

    Offsets are really just reduce borrowing. 

    To do your calculation you need to go back to the basic of the breakeven calculation.
    interest on the standard rate less the interest earned on the savings must match the reduced mortgage on the offset rat
    real savings  = (M*S) - (C*N) - (M-C)*O
    (note until you hit the break even this is negative)

    Many calculators don't take account of the potential better rate and savings rates


    The glory days of low margins, low fees and free money from CC are way behind us.
    the flexibility comes at a cost and there are other ways to manage that
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