Cost of gas pilot light on boiler

Mstty

Chrysalis said:

Mstty said:

So getting rid of gas probably won't be an option as the LL would have to agree to the disconnection.

Hi do you have an online reference to this?  So I am sure its landlord instead of "legal occupier".

In the past when a gas safety check failed due to proximity of gas exhaust, the gas guy bolted my window shut, I then later found out he needed my permission not the LL to do that,

There may be a section in your tenancy agreement or putting the property back in its origin condition which would apply here if not specifically mentioned elsewhere.

Whilst googling Octopus tend to offer this service for free but connection that would cost

https://octopus.energy/blog/disconnecting-your-gas-supply/

Chrysalis

So no online references available on the law?

Note a disconnection doesnt mean removing the boiler.

Not that important anyway, I think on the off chance I would want to heat rooms, the gas I will prefer to keep on.  Plus I would probably contact my LL about it to keep best relations as well, so would seek permission regardless.

Mstty

Chrysalis said:

So no online references available?

What I have found is meters can be changed without LL permission, but would need to be switched back when vacating property.  If LL permission to disconnect was needed, then the companies wouldnt be able to disconnect services on non payment or if safety issue.

Note a disconnection doesnt mean removing the boiler, its just a disconnection of supply done outside the property.

I would suggest that if it is not the gas company disconnecting the supply on no payment of bills(which they don't they just out in pre pay meters) or gas safety then you are willfully changing the property without LL permission.

Have you factored in the cost of reconnection if you did disconnect and how that stacks up on savings? When is the break even point?

Carrot007

Chrysalis said:

 If LL permission to disconnect was needed, then the companies wouldnt be able to disconnect services on non payment or if safety issue.

Well technically permission is not needed but you are allowed to be charged for any changes at the end on the tenancy that you made.

And yes that would include if the supply company forcably fitted a prepay meter (or indeed disconnection but you would have had to bypass the prepay about 5 times for that to occur).

Of course blood/stone.

Chrysalis

Mstty said:

Chrysalis said:

So no online references available?

What I have found is meters can be changed without LL permission, but would need to be switched back when vacating property.  If LL permission to disconnect was needed, then the companies wouldnt be able to disconnect services on non payment or if safety issue.

Note a disconnection doesnt mean removing the boiler, its just a disconnection of supply done outside the property.

I would suggest that if it is not the gas company disconnecting the supply on no payment of bills(which they don't they just out in pre pay meters) or gas safety then you are willfully changing the property without LL permission.

Have you factored in the cost of reconnection if you did disconnect and how that stacks up on savings? When is the break even point?

Of course, I have assumed I would be paying for it to be recconected.

As I said in my above edit though, I would very likely seek permission/agreement anyway, so the question was mostly a curiosity one.

Also I think I probably wont be getting it disconnected, as the question of needing heat in rooms is a good one, whilst I dont use central heating now, I never know in the future.

QrizB

Chrysalis said:

So no online references available?

Never mind online references, what specifically does your tenancy agreement say?

The UK Govt model agreement includes an obligation on the tenant to pay for the cost of reinstating any disconnected utilities.

 https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/model-agreement-for-a-shorthold-assured-tenancy

Mstty

It's an interesting dilemma for sure, probably one going through lots of peoples minds. Especially with the gas standing charge of approx £100 a year and a lot of people looking at heat the person not the home to save money.

Thought provoking 👍

jrawle

If you know how to, and are confident about doing so, how about turning the pilot light off, and re-lighting it manually when you need to run the boiler to heat the water? It's a bit of a pain, but worth it if you only use it a couple of times a week.

Mstty

An older post on pilot light

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2746166/pilot-light-gas-usage

Chrysalis

jrawle said:

If you know how to, and are confident about doing so, how about turning the pilot light off, and re-lighting it manually when you need to run the boiler to heat the water? It's a bit of a pain, but worth it if you only use it a couple of times a week.

Its usually a big pain to light and the boiler is in a horrible hard to reach location, if it relit easily I would consider this idea for sure, thank you.