Making a big decision and staying out of debt

So I’ve decided to start a new diary. I did have a diary a few years ago which I used to track my way out of debt. I managed to pay off £12k of debt in 9 months and then my car died. So I bought a car on finance but then managed to pay that loan off two and half years early. Again leaving me with no debt. So for the last while I have been saving my money ready to make one of the biggest decisions of my life.

So now my big decision is whether to move to a completely different area and buy a house. I currently live in Essex but am seriously considering moving to Lincolnshire. I don’t have any ties to Essex, no family here apart from my children, all of whom bar one who live with me. My original plan was to buy a house further north and then use it as a holiday home until my other kids have left home and then I would move up there. However, on talking to one of my children, she actually suggested moving this summer as she will have finished her GCSEs and none of the other kids are currently in important years at school. I currently rent and although my rent is reasonable for the area and my landlord is amazing, it is still not my own place. I could never buy a place in Essex so my only chance of buying somewhere is to move somewhere else.

Moving would probably be best for us as a family. However, moving to what type of house. I prefer older properties and properties with character. I have recently viewed a property which has enough rooms for us and is like a cottage. It has potential for us and wouldn’t be too big once my kids have grown and left home. Then I have seen properties which are more Victorian with large rooms but in my practical mind, I can see them being a money pit, costing money to do them up and fix them but also huge money probably spent on monthly bills such as electric, council tax etc. I know I would love a large Victorian terrace house but I have to think of the money side of things and with being the sole income provider and will the cost of living currently rising, I know that this would probably not be a wise decision.

This diary is to therefore chart my progress on house searching and buying, moving and getting the property to how I want it. All without going into debt. 
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  • Aaleigha
    Aaleigha Posts: 615 Forumite
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    When hubby and I retired we moved to a cottage in Wales and we love it 
    It has four small but practical bedrooms a largish kitchen small lounge and dining room 
    Although we have oil heating and hot water we also have a wood burner 
    Fuel bills here are less than they were in our 4 bed town house 

    So find out what the bills are in any house you might move too 
    We are also of grid for water waste that is 70 quid a year to empty and water is on a meter and here in Wales it's only 7 quid 

    Also look at council tax before you choose 

    Remember town houses often have very high rooms and most of the heat ends up near the ceiling 
    Emergency fund £10,000
    Several categories with savings in
    Cars, house maintenance, birthdays
    Etc I have about 10 categories

    Really happy to be debt free after being a compulsive spender
  • Mumoffourkids
    Mumoffourkids Posts: 1,070 Forumite
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    Thank you for your thoughts. I live in a fairly new build town house at the moment with very high ceilings and it does cost a bit to heat even though it is fairly well insulated. I think I will try and do an SOA based on the new house and possible costs. I have been thinking about the house I saw a lot today and although I could live with it how it is, there are a few things I could improve on, one thing I did love was that it had a log burner in the living room. That is something I definitely wanted,
  • Mumoffourkids
    Mumoffourkids Posts: 1,070 Forumite
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    So I have done an SOA based on being in the house. I have probably over estimated a few of the expenses just to make sure. Some notes, the childcare is for school holidays. I do have a 16 year who does babysit but I tend to send three of the children to a holiday two or three days a week just to give me and them a break. The holiday cost is for our annual trip to Cornwall. This year is fully paid for so I have estimated what I will probably spend next year. I have two cars because one is for my daughter when she turns 17 this year. It was my eldest’s car and when she got a new one, I kept the old one. Any comments are welcome, especially if there is something I have missed.

    [font=courier new][b]Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet[/b][b]

    Household Information[/b]
    Number of adults in household........... 1
    Number of children in household......... 5
    Number of cars owned.................... 2[b]

    Monthly Income Details[/b]
    Monthly income after tax................ 1000
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 0
    Benefits................................ 2322
    Other income............................ 767[b]
    Total monthly income.................... 4089[/b][b]

    Monthly Expense Details[/b]
    Mortgage................................ 600
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 303
    Rent.................................... 0
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 90
    Electricity............................. 275
    Gas..................................... 50
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 50
    Telephone (land line)................... 0
    Mobile phone............................ 45
    TV Licence.............................. 14
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 45
    Internet Services....................... 30
    Groceries etc. ......................... 550
    Clothing................................ 100
    Petrol/diesel........................... 70
    Road tax................................ 15
    Car Insurance........................... 45
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 50
    Car parking............................. 0
    Other travel............................ 0
    Childcare/nursery....................... 83
    Other child related expenses............ 150
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 20
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 0
    Buildings insurance..................... 15
    Contents insurance...................... 8
    Life assurance ......................... 50
    Other insurance......................... 0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 200
    Haircuts................................ 0
    Entertainment........................... 150
    Holiday................................. 200
    Emergency fund.......................... 50
    Stocks and shares isa................... 50
    Pension................................. 60
    Kids savings............................ 100[b]
    Total monthly expenses.................. 3468[/b]
    [b]

    Assets[/b]
    Cash.................................... 20000
    House value (Gross)..................... 140000
    Shares and bonds........................ 2700
    Car(s).................................. 15000
    Other assets............................ 0[b]
    Total Assets............................ 177700[/b]
    [b]

    Secured & HP Debts[/b]
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 130000...(600)......0
    Hire Purchase (HP) debt ...... 11000....(303)......0[b]
    Total secured & HP debts...... 141000....-.........-   [/b]

    [b]Unsecured Debts[/b]
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR[b]
    Total unsecured debts..........0.........0.........-  [/b]

    [b]
    Monthly Budget Summary[/b]
    Total monthly income.................... 4,089
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 3,468
    Available for debt repayments........... 621
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 0[b]
    Amount left after debt repayments....... 621[/b]

    [b]Personal Balance Sheet Summary[/b]
    Total assets (things you own)........... 177,700
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -141,000
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -0[b]
    Net Assets.............................. 36,700[/b]

    [i]Created using the SOA calculator at www.stoozing.com. 
  • Sunshine_girl2
    Sunshine_girl2 Posts: 3,032 Forumite
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    Welcome back to diary land . Are you still doing all your sewing ? Buying a house is a big decision, I look forward to hearing about it all. 
    Life is an adventure, never stop exploring.

  • Karonher
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    There is a nice surplus in the SOA but how much of the benefits/other income is due to having the children at home? The mortgage and secured loans virtually wipe out your earnings in one go. What will your SOA look like in say 5 or 10 years' time when there may be fewer people in the house?
    Aiming to make £7,500 online in 2022
  • Mumoffourkids
    Mumoffourkids Posts: 1,070 Forumite
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    Welcome back to diary land . Are you still doing all your sewing ? Buying a house is a big decision, I look forward to hearing about it all. 
    Thank you. I still do a little bit of sewing but I have changed jobs and don’t seem to have as much time as I once did for my sewing. I still tend to make presents for any birthday parties the children go to and of course make clothes for my kids.
  • Mumoffourkids
    Mumoffourkids Posts: 1,070 Forumite
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    Karonher said:
    There is a nice surplus in the SOA but how much of the benefits/other income is due to having the children at home? The mortgage and secured loans virtually wipe out your earnings in one go. What will your SOA look like in say 5 or 10 years' time when there may be fewer people in the house?
    That is a very good point about what my income will look like in 5 or 10 years time. In 5 years I would expect to still have at least 3 children at home and the secured loan will have finished by then even if I don’t overpay it. In 10 years time I will still have at least two children at home so will still have some other income but expenses will have dropped due to having less kids at home. Also the salary is only a part time salary. As soon as the youngest two children are in their final years of primary school, I will up my hours to full time and so will earn more salary and will rely on benefits less. Again this will probably be in about 5 years time. 

    I’ve just done another SOA based on on only 3 children at home so benefits going down but my wages going up. Also taking into account expenses will have reduced due to less children at home and the secured loan will be finished. This gives me a surplus of £536 a month. 

  • Mumoffourkids
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    So today should be a no spend day as I worked last night and don’t plan on going out anywhere today. Three of the kids are back in holiday club tomorrow so I’m going to try and decluttter the house a bit as if I do end up moving, then I need to have a serious declutter in this house!

    Decluttering will also help bring in some extra cash to help with the move. I probably need to make a list of things to do and declutter and try and sell. 

    I have also been looking at any new properties which have been added today and none compare to the one I saw at the weekend for either price or size of property/suitable layout.
  • Mumoffourkids
    Mumoffourkids Posts: 1,070 Forumite
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    Today I ended up spending as we had run out of bread and milk again! I can’t wait for the kids to go back to school and stop eating so much! I also shouldn’t shop when hungry and I haven’t done a meal plan for this week so I ended up buying some bbq chicken and cheese coleslaw for dinner tonight as well. Tomorrow I need to do a meal plan using up the food in the house and work out when I need to do my next big shop.
  • Good to see you back again 🙂. 
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