Advice needed

savingman

Hello friends,
This is not exactly a DIY problem but I need your advice.
A tradesman did my bathroom.
He promised 2 weeks but took 2 months for taking tiles etc out and redid bathroom. Shower, bath sink and toilet, retile including under floor heating. He said he will not do any electrician work neither he has any friend electrician. He said he will leave out wire of underfloor heating etc (there was already one underfloor heating so easy for him.)

Now when my electrician connected underfloor heating is giving error message and I am trying to get it sorted with manufacturer they said it is issue with heating sensor.

Anyways my question is that if underfloor heating doesn't solved then I should deduct money as underfloor heating is very important for me as my house is cold and I have porcelain tiles which fell much cooler than my previous tile.

Do question is what would you do if heating doesn't work how much should be deducted?
I am withholding hours £1000 at the moment.

I don't want to keep somebody's money but I gave him a contract for bathroom and told him that it is his job to ensure everything is in order.

Any opinion both for and against welcome.
I am thinking of withhold £500 if problem doesn't resolve.

Keep in mind that my electrician did down lights exhaust fan etc. Before he started bathroom. When my bathroom Fitter took tiles off he said he had to put false ceiling on.
I asked him to make marking on so we know where to drill holes in new ceiling and because of his carelessness we lost markings and my electrician has to remeasure and do lights again and he charged me extra £200 I thought I was not planning to adjust this with bathroom Fitter but if I have no underfloor heating then what shall I do?
My advise appreciated.
I don't have any paperwork but loads of whatsapp messages

fenwick458

an issue with the heating sensor is quite common they are quite fragile and are easily damaged,  and a simple fix is to just bypass it and control the floor heating with a timer. the manufacturer will probably give you a replacement for free but that doesn't really solve anything as you can't fit it without removing tiles which will almost certainly damage the heating mat.
the extra £200 for the lights doesn't seem fair if the bathroom fitter lost the measurements he should be paying it

savingman

Thanks
Yes manufacturer said there is a way to bypass sensor but the problem is it will be be continually on or off for whatever timing we set irrespective of actual temperature.

But just in case of it didn't work at all then what should I do how much should I deduct. Tradesman took me for a ride when he was doing work. But when it is done from his point of view trying to play all sort of emotional guilt card with me. Like I am doing biggest sin by not pay him on his last day at my place.
I am just preparing myself for every possible scenario. My Mrs says I am to weak when it comes to deal with tradesmen. 

Thinking about it again there is no need for me to take the hit of £200 for bathroom Fitter carelessness.

Despite telling him atleast dozen times to mark the centre points in new ceilings he failed to do it that took good over half day of my electrician. 
Thanks

Doozergirl

If your fitter excluded electrics from his remit then how is it reasonable to charge him for problems with the electrics? 

As a project manager, I have to ensure that the electrician comes in at the relevant points to ensure that everything works.  Funnily enough, my tiler doesn't do electrics and I can't charge him if something goes wrong there either.  

If you want someone that you can hold responsible for everything then you need to employ someone that will take responsibility for everything.  

You cannot put responsibility on someone for something that they specifically exclude.  

The issue with the light fittings sounds like doing things in the wrong order.   Our electrician always draws out where he puts fittings with measurements and photographs it because it is a simple fact that the plasterer will cover anything that was marked on the ceiling if they aren't pulled through already and there's nothing you can do about it!  

Communication errors here because of a lack of project management and joined up thinking.