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What should a structural engineer do?

I tried to contact some builders to get some quotes for opening up the downstairs and one of them said that I needed to get structural calculations done first.

I contacted structural engineer and said I needed structural calculations and he wants £400 + VAT.

Another structural engineer that I contacted with the same request wants £2400 + VAT.

The higher quote includes:
A dimensional ground survey
Design steel framing to remove walls
Design foundations for any columns
Calculations for building control
A drawing of structural elements

Now i'm worried that the £400 quote won't include what is needed to get started on the building quotes.

Can someone clarify it for me?

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  • Section62
    Section62 Posts: 11,029 Forumite
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    Lbuk said:
    I tried to contact some builders to get some quotes for opening up the downstairs and one of them said that I needed to get structural calculations done first.

    I contacted structural engineer and said I needed structural calculations and he wants £400 + VAT.

    Another structural engineer that I contacted with the same request wants £2400 + VAT.

    The higher quote includes:
    A dimensional ground survey
    Design steel framing to remove walls
    Design foundations for any columns
    Calculations for building control
    A drawing of structural elements

    Now i'm worried that the £400 quote won't include what is needed to get started on the building quotes.

    Can someone clarify it for me?
    What you probably need is the £2400 version, but you might get it with the £400 version.  You need to ask the £400 guy what is included in his proposal. He might be assuming you'll provide architect's drawings and all he needs to do is to annotate them.
  • ic
    ic Posts: 3,530 Forumite
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    I've recently been through the process of planning and gaining building regs, twice (the first scheme was too expensive!).  I've paid the structural engineer a little less than what you've been quoted, but in that I got the first and second versions - he surveyed the once, and then produced detailed plans and calculations.  My architect had produced detailed drawings already, that the engineer worked from - my plans include removing several walls on the ground floor, and putting in a loft conversion.  £400 for the work involved in removing one wall sounds far more reasonable to me.  Why not get a third quote?
  • NSG666
    NSG666 Posts: 981 Forumite
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    One sounds like a quote for a steel beam dimensions calculation to sit on existing walls using pad stones whereas the other is to design and specify a full 'goal post' type structural arrangement with suitable foundations.You might need to get a more flexible quote covering option a and b as surely they wont know which option is necessary without an on-site survey unless they have detailed drawings to work from?
    Sorry I can't think of anything profound, clever or witty to write here.
  • stuart45
    stuart45 Posts: 5,217 Forumite
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    Opening up can vary from removing a wall between the lounge and dining room, to taking a lot more of the interior and exterior walls away.
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