SABA / ZZPS - Original fine letter not received

MikeMikeMike77

Hello; firstly I'd like to thank everyone for their help on this site. I've had to set up a new username as I lost my original log in details, but I've been using the site for ages and the help and support that everyone provides is fantastic.

Sorry to add to this topic; I have read the **NEWBIES** thread and understand that in short, the SABA > ZZPS > QDR axis is effectively a bullying scheme designed to frighten/bully folk into paying extortionate sums and therefore, the best bet is to ride it out using a variety of methods. As it stands, my plan is to engage in  written dialogue with them, asking them for clarity on a number of issues over what will hopefully be a 6 month period...

My situation is detailed below - if anyone is available to advise if I am doing the right thing, it would be much appreciated.

* I did not receive an initial fine letter from Saba.
* The first notification arrived from ZZPS dated 31 March.
* This states the offence took place on 19 Feb at a train station.
* The timing means that appealing the fine is out of the question.
* I called ZZPS (who, incidentally, called themselves a number of different company names on the recorded message while I was on hold for 45 minutes) and explained the situation. They said they couldn't do anything, other than contact Royal Mail about the initial letter that didn't arrive.
* They don't know who the driver was on the offence date

My plan is to write to Royal Mail as advised by ZZPS and to also write to Saba explaining this course of action. 

If Royal mail aren't able to track down (an untracked, sent 2nd class letter) - I will contact Saba again and ask for the initial letter to be sent again so I can ascertain the actual nature of the alleged offence...

Considering the circumstances here - does that sound sensible?

Once again, a huge thanks to everyone that helps out in these situations. It's much appreciated.

Fruitcake

It is neither a fine nor an offence. The advice here is never, ever 'phone a parking company or any of their agents. I'm glad you didn't reveal the driver's identity.

I wouldn't bother with contacting the Post Office. I doubt they will be able to do anything. In any case it is my opinion that it is more likely that SABA "inadvertently" failed to send the NTK in the first place due to "an administrative error."

Send an SAR to the DPO of SABA as per the advice in the NEWBIES.

Appeal to SABA by post stating that since the first correspondence received was the ZZPS letter, you reasonably consider this to be the NTK.

You are right that you want to drag this out beyond six months because SABA do have the ability to take a driver or owner to the magistrate's court. They cannot however take the keeper to magistrate's court because railway byelaws stipulate that the driver can and the owner may be liable. 
There is mention of a keeper being liable in said byelaws.

Get photos of the site and signage in any event.