Leaving paints, sealers etc. in the shed when selling a house

TheJP

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

TheJP said:

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

TheJP said:

Depends how old the stuff is, i personally think its rude to leave and assume the buyer will use it/be grateful for it. My first home the seller left loads of old paint and stuff and even said don't worry its free when i mentioned it. All the paint was spoilt and it took me 2 trips to the recycling centre to get rid.

Check with the buyer first and if they don't want it get it removed.

As above, ours is last weekend

And we're talking about 3 tins. I'd definitely ask though.

It'll be the last thing to be removed. We'll almost certainly scuff something as we move.

Can i ask a question out of interest, why did you paint your house top-bottom if you are moving out?

Good question.

We only moved in 2 years ago, a month before Covid. House was in desperate need of doing - it genuinely hadn't been done since the 90s (and was therefore in two-tone bright colours, with borders). We got it cheap for this reason.

One room was so dark pink, that they didn't even add it to the marketing photos! The bathroom was a lovely 70s blue (complete with bidet) which we've replaced with a modern suite. That wasn't in the marketing either.

We really need to maximise the value of the house, so a few weekends of painting (internally and externally), may hopefully make it a bit more marketable.

Much of it we've done white, or off-white, so that it's turn-key, but easily changed.

Ok, just FYI painting the walls wont add value to the property. It may make it more appealing but you wont increase the value of the house. 

TripleH

It might not add value but could increase the sales price. Some people are put off by a house requiring a re-paint.so painting itva neutral colour might get more parties interested so increase the selling price.

TheJP

TripleH said:

It might not add value but could increase the sales price. Some people are put off by a house requiring a re-paint.so painting itva neutral colour might get more parties interested so increase the selling price.

It could, but not guaranteed, most people especially if the walls are all white will want to put their own stamp on it. The colour of the walls never dictates how much i would pay for a house. In this market i don't think painting walls will make parties attracted, the house will do that regardless.

newsgroupmonkey_

TheJP said:

TripleH said:

It might not add value but could increase the sales price. Some people are put off by a house requiring a re-paint.so painting itva neutral colour might get more parties interested so increase the selling price.

It could, but not guaranteed, most people especially if the walls are all white will want to put their own stamp on it. The colour of the walls never dictates how much i would pay for a house. In this market i don't think painting walls will make parties attracted, the house will do that regardless.

Believe me, it would have put people off though. How many times have we seen FTBs (in particular) turn down a property for spurious reasons.

Many of us who have owned more than one house will be able to picture how a house would look with our own stamp on.

To put into perspective, 3 houses in our road have been for sale in the last 6 months.

House #1 had 1 bedroom with a dark purple wall, another with a black wall and a bright red kitchen (amongst other "interesting" colours). Up for £320k. Fell through twice and eventually sold for (we think) £280k.

House #2 was relatively spruced up, but tired bathroom, kitchen etc. Next door to #1. Put up at £300k. Ended up going for £320k after 3 days (we know this as fact and valuation has matched).

House #3 (which is more like ours, but has a very small extension, whereas ours has a workshop. a much bigger drive and garden and isn't overlooked) was in "showroom" condition. Went for £350k.

We really need £325k, so are doing our best to make it as attractive and marketable as possible.

Our kitchen will let us down - it's a "farmhouse" kitchen. But we've put a new double sink in. We replaced the whole bathroom in November.

TheJP

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

TheJP said:

TripleH said:

It might not add value but could increase the sales price. Some people are put off by a house requiring a re-paint.so painting itva neutral colour might get more parties interested so increase the selling price.

It could, but not guaranteed, most people especially if the walls are all white will want to put their own stamp on it. The colour of the walls never dictates how much i would pay for a house. In this market i don't think painting walls will make parties attracted, the house will do that regardless.

Believe me, it would have put people off though. How many times have we seen FTBs (in particular) turn down a property for spurious reasons.

Many of us who have owned more than one house will be able to picture how a house would look with our own stamp on.

To put into perspective, 3 houses in our road have been for sale in the last 6 months.

House #1 had 1 bedroom with a dark purple wall, another with a black wall and a bright red kitchen (amongst other "interesting" colours). Up for £320k. Fell through twice and eventually sold for (we think) £280k.

House #2 was relatively spruced up, but tired bathroom, kitchen etc. Next door to #1. Put up at £300k. Ended up going for £320k after 3 days (we know this as fact and valuation has matched).

House #3 (which is more like ours, but has a very small extension, whereas ours has a workshop. a much bigger drive and garden and isn't overlooked) was in "showroom" condition. Went for £350k.

We really need £325k, so are doing our best to make it as attractive and marketable as possible.

Our kitchen will let us down - it's a "farmhouse" kitchen. But we've put a new double sink in. We replaced the whole bathroom in November.

That's the reason i wouldn't deal with FTBs, likely to be problematic throughout if they are spurious. Not to mention some are irrational when survey results come in.

All those examples you have given have nothing to do with the colour of paint on the walls though.

House #1 clearly the survey throw up some issues hence the collapsed sale and remarketing at a lower price. Colour of paint doesn't make sales collapse.

House #2 again shows that it wasn't the paint that sold it if it had a tired kitchen and bathroom (those are more attractive than paint).

House #3 its a bigger house due to the extension hence its price. The showroom condition is attractive but it depends on the buyer. They may likely have a colour scheme they want and will repaint. None of which affects the value of the house.

If you factor in the costs of the kitchen upgrades, new bathroom and paint there is a possibility that you could break even but i hope you get what you need if the next house depends on it.

What did the EA value it at?

newsgroupmonkey_

TheJP said:

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

TheJP said:

TripleH said:

It might not add value but could increase the sales price. Some people are put off by a house requiring a re-paint.so painting itva neutral colour might get more parties interested so increase the selling price.

It could, but not guaranteed, most people especially if the walls are all white will want to put their own stamp on it. The colour of the walls never dictates how much i would pay for a house. In this market i don't think painting walls will make parties attracted, the house will do that regardless.

Believe me, it would have put people off though. How many times have we seen FTBs (in particular) turn down a property for spurious reasons.

Many of us who have owned more than one house will be able to picture how a house would look with our own stamp on.

To put into perspective, 3 houses in our road have been for sale in the last 6 months.

House #1 had 1 bedroom with a dark purple wall, another with a black wall and a bright red kitchen (amongst other "interesting" colours). Up for £320k. Fell through twice and eventually sold for (we think) £280k.

House #2 was relatively spruced up, but tired bathroom, kitchen etc. Next door to #1. Put up at £300k. Ended up going for £320k after 3 days (we know this as fact and valuation has matched).

House #3 (which is more like ours, but has a very small extension, whereas ours has a workshop. a much bigger drive and garden and isn't overlooked) was in "showroom" condition. Went for £350k.

We really need £325k, so are doing our best to make it as attractive and marketable as possible.

Our kitchen will let us down - it's a "farmhouse" kitchen. But we've put a new double sink in. We replaced the whole bathroom in November.

That's the reason i wouldn't deal with FTBs, likely to be problematic throughout if they are spurious. Not to mention some are irrational when survey results come in.

All those examples you have given have nothing to do with the colour of paint on the walls though.

House #1 clearly the survey throw up some issues hence the collapsed sale and remarketing at a lower price. Colour of paint doesn't make sales collapse.

House #2 again shows that it wasn't the paint that sold it if it had a tired kitchen and bathroom (those are more attractive than paint).

House #3 its a bigger house due to the extension hence its price. The showroom condition is attractive but it depends on the buyer. They may likely have a colour scheme they want and will repaint. None of which affects the value of the house.

If you factor in the costs of the kitchen upgrades, new bathroom and paint there is a possibility that you could break even but i hope you get what you need if the next house depends on it.

What did the EA value it at?

We're not quite there yet.... I'll let you know next week

Don't disagree with you about FTBs. I'd rather not if I can help it, but unfortunately where we live, these houses are well priced in a quiet village close to a major town.

The fact that they are ex-council (which I could write a thread about) seems to devalue them somewhat - the long and short being that they were intended to be privately owned, the builder went bust, the council bought them and finished them off. Bar 2, all are now privately owned.

Hence why 2/3 sold so quickly. As I said, the one with the tiny extension (and it really is - it adds a utility room that's 6'x6') has loads of other issues - lack of parking, small and very overlooked garden. Whereas ours is at the end of a cul-de-sac with plenty of parking and a drive for 3 cars and a garden more than twice the size.

greensalad

TheJP said:

Depends how old the stuff is, i personally think its rude to leave and assume the buyer will use it/be grateful for it. My first home the seller left loads of old paint and stuff and even said don't worry its free when i mentioned it. All the paint was spoilt and it took me 2 trips to the recycling centre to get rid.

Check with the buyer first and if they don't want it get it removed.

Just bought a house with piles of paint in one cupboard. I haven't got round to it yet but I will be binning every single one.

TheJP

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

TheJP said:

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

TheJP said:

TripleH said:

It might not add value but could increase the sales price. Some people are put off by a house requiring a re-paint.so painting itva neutral colour might get more parties interested so increase the selling price.

It could, but not guaranteed, most people especially if the walls are all white will want to put their own stamp on it. The colour of the walls never dictates how much i would pay for a house. In this market i don't think painting walls will make parties attracted, the house will do that regardless.

Believe me, it would have put people off though. How many times have we seen FTBs (in particular) turn down a property for spurious reasons.

Many of us who have owned more than one house will be able to picture how a house would look with our own stamp on.

To put into perspective, 3 houses in our road have been for sale in the last 6 months.

House #1 had 1 bedroom with a dark purple wall, another with a black wall and a bright red kitchen (amongst other "interesting" colours). Up for £320k. Fell through twice and eventually sold for (we think) £280k.

House #2 was relatively spruced up, but tired bathroom, kitchen etc. Next door to #1. Put up at £300k. Ended up going for £320k after 3 days (we know this as fact and valuation has matched).

House #3 (which is more like ours, but has a very small extension, whereas ours has a workshop. a much bigger drive and garden and isn't overlooked) was in "showroom" condition. Went for £350k.

We really need £325k, so are doing our best to make it as attractive and marketable as possible.

Our kitchen will let us down - it's a "farmhouse" kitchen. But we've put a new double sink in. We replaced the whole bathroom in November.

That's the reason i wouldn't deal with FTBs, likely to be problematic throughout if they are spurious. Not to mention some are irrational when survey results come in.

All those examples you have given have nothing to do with the colour of paint on the walls though.

House #1 clearly the survey throw up some issues hence the collapsed sale and remarketing at a lower price. Colour of paint doesn't make sales collapse.

House #2 again shows that it wasn't the paint that sold it if it had a tired kitchen and bathroom (those are more attractive than paint).

House #3 its a bigger house due to the extension hence its price. The showroom condition is attractive but it depends on the buyer. They may likely have a colour scheme they want and will repaint. None of which affects the value of the house.

If you factor in the costs of the kitchen upgrades, new bathroom and paint there is a possibility that you could break even but i hope you get what you need if the next house depends on it.

What did the EA value it at?

We're not quite there yet.... I'll let you know next week

Don't disagree with you about FTBs. I'd rather not if I can help it, but unfortunately where we live, these houses are well priced in a quiet village close to a major town.

The fact that they are ex-council (which I could write a thread about) seems to devalue them somewhat - the long and short being that they were intended to be privately owned, the builder went bust, the council bought them and finished them off. Bar 2, all are now privately owned.

Hence why 2/3 sold so quickly. As I said, the one with the tiny extension (and it really is - it adds a utility room that's 6'x6') has loads of other issues - lack of parking, small and very overlooked garden. Whereas ours is at the end of a cul-de-sac with plenty of parking and a drive for 3 cars and a garden more than twice the size.

It is worth adding that not all FTBs are bad to deal with, some are very rational and have realistic expectations (i was in that group).

I'm not sure that it being ex council owned would devalue it, how would people know anyway? Often ex council properties have more space (dependant on when built) and build quality is hard waring.

The utility room is an attractive feature for some as you can hide the washing machine and laundry out of sight however being end of cul-de-sac with parking is far more attractive (my house is the same and that's would we first listed).

My advice would be to highlight that in the brochure, i wouldn't add that the property has been refurbished or redecorated because buyers will look at previous history and can see the pictures before you bought it and often feel you are using that as a way to justify price. There was a thread where someone had said in the brochure that the house was refurbished when it was the previous owners, all they did was paint the kitchen. People viewing noticed.

Good luck.

TheJP

greensalad said:

TheJP said:

Depends how old the stuff is, i personally think its rude to leave and assume the buyer will use it/be grateful for it. My first home the seller left loads of old paint and stuff and even said don't worry its free when i mentioned it. All the paint was spoilt and it took me 2 trips to the recycling centre to get rid.

Check with the buyer first and if they don't want it get it removed.

Just bought a house with piles of paint in one cupboard. I haven't got round to it yet but I will be binning every single one.

Did they ask you if you'd what them left behind? I think its rude if a seller doesn't at least have the courtesy to ask first, paint has a shelf life differing from a couple of months to a couple of years dependant on where they are stored and if they have been sealed properly.