Living in a caravan

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SuseOrm said:

[Deleted User] said:

No mate you won't get away with it. You are on the grounds living there, doesn't matter if you are in the actual house or not. Assuming you get caught of course but big risk. I know someone who lives in a caravan on a site and even to stay there full time is forbidden. 

Who exactly do you think he’s going to get caught by ? 

Someone being "busy". Trust me some people go about all day with a sole purpose to be busy. Don't get me wrong, if someone does something bad I will report them, but that is for my own safety etc. I am talking about people that report a neighbour for having the wrong coloured door. Yes it has occurred. 

Mgman1965

molerat said:

SuseOrm said:

[Deleted User] said:

No mate you won't get away with it. You are on the grounds living there, doesn't matter if you are in the actual house or not. Assuming you get caught of course but big risk. I know someone who lives in a caravan on a site and even to stay there full time is forbidden. 

Who exactly do you think he’s going to get caught by ? 

Some councils have a very active department dealing with cases of people living is sheds and caravans.  All it takes is one neighbour to complain.

Some councils in London use a spotter plane equipped with hi resolution cameras and a thermal imaging camera to spot  garages, sheds and caravans with a heat signature to be visited.

poppy12345

KeepOnKnitting said:

poppy12345 said:

deannagone said:

The two people might face questions about their living arrangments but certainly it does happen that a previously together couple can live seperate lives, but still under the same roof and still claim benefits. This is a recognised thing.  Not everyone can afford to live apart.  Sometimes it can mean the two people are actually trying hard to reduce harm to the family from splitting up also, but things have changed and they have no desire to have the same relationship they once had.  This might mean, the two people require some benefit support temporarily.  I'd remind people that living in a caravan for more than a couple of weeks is not overly pleasant.

Most of the comments on here are inaccurate, and very judgemental.  Couple's do split up.., and may need to claim benefits.  It does not automatically imply they are trying to 'do' the system if they are living seperate lives but still to some degree or other, living under the same roof.  It just means they can't afford to live without benefit support. And judging by the OP, it doesn't sound like we are talking major amounts of money here.

Going by many of the posts, it seems that many people believe if you are on benefits and can't afford to live apart, you shouldn't be allowed to live on benefits.., or maybe you shouldn't split up unless you can afford to live apart without benefit support.  Quite ridiculous.  Of course, someone in this situation should expect to prove they are living independently (not as a formal couple in a continuing relationship, sharing costs etc) but this should never mean they can't claim benefits.  Or be automatically regarded as cheating the system once that proof has been provided.

100% agree with this. Universal Credit is totally different to what tax credit used to be. For UC people can still live in the same house, with completely different lives and continue to claim UC as single people. They just need to prove that their lives are separate, which would mean paying their own bills, separate bank accounts, buying their own food etc etc. It will then be down to a decision maker at DWP to decide whether they are classed as a couple or not.

Also agreeing with this. I live in a shared house with a single guy who is on benefits. Two separate bedrooms. Completely separate lives. One roof. No reason why his benefits should be stopped because I earn a living.

Your situation is totally different to the OP. My point was that a couple who've split up can claim UC as single people, even if they continue to live in the same house.

jacko74

KeepOnKnitting said:

poppy12345 said:

deannagone said:

Also agreeing with this. I live in a shared house with a single guy who is on benefits. Two separate bedrooms. Completely separate lives. One roof. No reason why his benefits should be stopped because I earn a living.

If you're referring to living in a HMO then obviously it's completely different to a couple who have been in a relationship and had children together but are then claiming to be ''separated'' but remain living under the same roof and claiming benefits as supposed single people.

SuseOrm

jacko74 said:

KeepOnKnitting said:

poppy12345 said:

deannagone said:

Also agreeing with this. I live in a shared house with a single guy who is on benefits. Two separate bedrooms. Completely separate lives. One roof. No reason why his benefits should be stopped because I earn a living.

If you're referring to living in a HMO then obviously it's completely different to a couple who have been in a relationship and had children together but are then claiming to be ''separated'' but remain living under the same roof and claiming benefits as supposed single people.

Well people do live together having previously been in relationships that have now separated and do and are given universal credits as single people.  Unfortunately until child maintenance becomes the actual in forcible law it ought to be, plenty of people do not financially support their children and therefore the person & children must not be penalised just because one of the separated party is living in the house but isn’t necessarily contributing to the family pot.