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nhp1
nhp1 Posts: 1 Newbie
So there are companies saying they use green energy 

why if the cost to produce is nearly constant, we have a increase in cost to the consumer 
the wind is still blowing the sun is still there

so why the increase??

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  • Phlik
    Phlik Posts: 1,088 Forumite
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    Firstly green/renewable does not automatically equal cheap, secondly energy prices are not set by the different generation methods they are set on a global market, demand goes up price goes up, demand goes down price goes down.
    The wind is still blowing except when it isn't and the sun still shines except when it isn't, they are not constant and cannot be relied on so are no use as baseline energy provision, that's where the likes of nuclear comes in, only we don't have enough in the UK so we rely on approximately 40% of our electricity generation coming from gas.
  • QrizB
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    Welcome to the forum.
    Here is an article at The Conversation that explains it in more detail than I can:

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  • mumf
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    Dear god!  Even renewable energy takes fossils to operate. All those windmills take oil and coal to manufacture,deliver,erect and maintain. When the wind don’t blow and the sun don’t shine,gas ,nuclear and two ‘ black’ coal stations pick up the slack- which is often! Oh yes,Drax in Yorkshire- Biomass , which is eco - double- speak  for North American Forests being exported from them, imported to us, ( using diesel mainly) to deliver a so - called ‘ Green ‘ energy source. When nuclear first came to the Uk,electricity was going to be “too cheap to meter”. Yeah ,right.
  • nhp1 said:
    So there are companies saying they use green energy 

    why if the cost to produce is nearly constant, we have a increase in cost to the consumer 
    the wind is still blowing the sun is still there

    so why the increase??
    What would you think if you could only have electric on when the sun was out or it was a windy day? There has to be a fall back for when those 2 elements aren't there. Green Energy is pretty much a marketing term. Green energy devices still cost the planet in some way.
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