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Move ISA into new SIPP - is it worth it ?

Hi, 

I have an ISA with Fidelity which contains funds I held with LG prior to them being transferred ( have made a couple of changes since the transfer ).  Value approx £70,000.   I am wondering if it may be beneficial to transfer the ISA to a SIPP with fidelity as I am assuming I’d qualify for tax relief on the payment into the new SIPP ?  The only possible negative I can see if I can access the ISA at any point but couldn’t access the SIPP until I’m 55 - in 6 years time. As things stand this wouldn’t be an issue.  Am I missing anything ?    Thank you for any advice 😊 
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  • eskbanker
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    Do you have enough earned income, and carry-forward allowance, to support a £70K contribution into a SIPP?
  • Clare43
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    I think so.   Currently working in NHS as a nurse and salary covers the bills.  I’ve got some money in bank account I can access if needed.  Currently looking into early retirement after I turn 50 and waiting for estimate on figures for this but it’s not a definite plan.  Also have another SIPP with standard life I’ve had for a while now, plus an endowment ( I think ) that I’ve had with Avila  since  my teens. 
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  • Notepad_Phil
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    edited 10 March 2022 at 9:28PM
    I think you may have misunderstood eskbanker - he meant is your income £70k. Your earned income in this financial year needs to be at least as high as the contribution you wish to make to receive tax relief.
  • QrizB
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    edited 10 March 2022 at 9:25PM
    Clare43 said:
    I think so.   Currently working in NHS as a nurse and salary covers the bills.
    So you're expecting to earn £70k this year, after tax?
    Or, if you'd rather split it over two years, £35k this tax year and £35k next?
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  • Dazed_and_C0nfused
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    edited 10 March 2022 at 9:27PM
    A £70k payment from you is a gross contribution of £87,500.

    Ignoring any complications with calculating the DB element of your annual allowance do you expect to earn £87,500 in the tax year you will make the contribution?
  • MX5huggy
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    If you are a high wage NHS earner is your expected NHS pension £50k or more so getting close the Life Time Allowance when multiplied by 20.
  • Alice_Holt
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    edited 10 March 2022 at 9:44PM
    This explains the maximum amount you can put into a pension in the tax year:
    https://www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/pensions-and-retirement/tax-and-pensions/the-annual-allowance

    To transfer the total £70k plus tax uplift it's likely you would need to spread the contributions over 3 tax years.

    Include the workplace pension contributions when calculating your maximum contribution amount.


    In principle seems a good idea, but note the potential restrictions for future pension contributions if you withdraw monies at age 55.
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  • Clare43
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    I think you may have misunderstood eskbanker - he meant is your income £70k. Your earned income in this financial year needs to be at least as high as the contribution you wish to make to receive tax relief.
    Hi, yes I did misunderstand.  My income is around £25000 a year. 
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  • Clare43
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    A £70k payment from you is a gross contribution of £87,500.

    Ignoring any complications with calculating the DB element of your annual allowance do you expect to earn £87,500 in the tax year you will make the contribution?
    Definitely not.  
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  • Clare43
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    MX5huggy said:
    If you are a high wage NHS earner is your expected NHS pension £50k or more so getting close the Life Time Allowance when multiplied by 20.
    I’m not a high wage earner.  Just a staff nurse earning around £25000 a year 
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