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CEV Is it just me? I'm still petrified!

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  • MattMattMattUK
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    ripplyuk said:
    ripplyuk said:
    @MattMattMattUK Yes but I’ll have to take it off to eat. I doubt I’ll be able to sleep in a mask either. 
    I do it every night. I use a CPAP machine. 
    So does my partner which is why I can see it would be problematic. As soon as he lies with his cheek against the pillow, the mask gets pushed around and the seal is broken so air is just pumping out into the room. 

    Obviously an FFP3 mask is not the same as CPAP but I think it would be even more difficult as they are not designed to be worn overnight whilst sleeping. 
    It would depend what kind of FFP3 mask, a standard fibre type one probably not, but a full rubber mask product, something designed for an industrial setting would be well sealed, designed to keep one safe when working, moving, even unconscious on the floor. If they are totally terrified they could go for a military grade gas mask, but they are incredibly uncomfortable. 
  • unforeseen
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    . If they are totally terrified they could go for a military grade gas mask, but they are incredibly uncomfortable. 

    I found out on one exercise that I could still snore while wearing an S10. 

  • unforeseen
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    ripplyuk said:
    ripplyuk said:
    @MattMattMattUK Yes but I’ll have to take it off to eat. I doubt I’ll be able to sleep in a mask either. 
    I do it every night. I use a CPAP machine. 
    So does my partner which is why I can see it would be problematic. As soon as he lies with his cheek against the pillow, the mask gets pushed around and the seal is broken so air is just pumping out into the room. 

    Obviously an FFP3 mask is not the same as CPAP but I think it would be even more difficult as they are not designed to be worn overnight whilst sleeping. 
    Being a positive pressure system there is always air venting. I only very occasionally have a problem with the seal venting and I sleep mainly on my side. It sounds like the straps may not be tight enough. 
  • MattMattMattUK
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    . If they are totally terrified they could go for a military grade gas mask, but they are incredibly uncomfortable. 

    I found out on one exercise that I could still snore while wearing an S10. 
    Is that through sheer exhaustion rather than laying in a comfy bed? I've work one and I found it incredibly hot and sweaty, something I hope I do not ever need to do again, especially in a situation where it really matters.
  • ripplyuk
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    edited 8 March 2022 at 3:41PM
    ripplyuk said:
    ripplyuk said:
    @MattMattMattUK Yes but I’ll have to take it off to eat. I doubt I’ll be able to sleep in a mask either. 
    I do it every night. I use a CPAP machine. 
    So does my partner which is why I can see it would be problematic. As soon as he lies with his cheek against the pillow, the mask gets pushed around and the seal is broken so air is just pumping out into the room. 

    Obviously an FFP3 mask is not the same as CPAP but I think it would be even more difficult as they are not designed to be worn overnight whilst sleeping. 
    It would depend what kind of FFP3 mask, a standard fibre type one probably not, but a full rubber mask product, something designed for an industrial setting would be well sealed, designed to keep one safe when working, moving, even unconscious on the floor. If they are totally terrified they could go for a military grade gas mask, but they are incredibly uncomfortable. 
    Mine are standard fibre 3M ones. Since I’ll have to take it off several times a day to eat/drink anyway, the risk of covid will still be there, regardless of what mask I sleep in. I leave it up to my consultant, of course. He’s held off on this surgery for a long time and cancelled it twice due to the level of covid on the wards so I know he’ll do his best to try and balance the risk for me. 
  • unforeseen
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    edited 8 March 2022 at 6:00PM
    . If they are totally terrified they could go for a military grade gas mask, but they are incredibly uncomfortable. 

    I found out on one exercise that I could still snore while wearing an S10. 
    Is that through sheer exhaustion rather than laying in a comfy bed? I've work one and I found it incredibly hot and sweaty, something I hope I do not ever need to do again, especially in a situation where it really matters.
    That was exhaustion, in a 12x12. Day 3 of an exercise with about 4 hours sleep in total. 
  • Nebulous2
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    I was CEV (no such thing now). I am back at work as normal. Still wear a mask in shops but otherwise life has returned to normal for me.
    I was back at work from the day that the shielding advice was rescinded. 

    However my manager, who wasn't even in the vulnerable category, is still getting all her supplies by delivery and ventures out rarely, always wearing a mask the whole time when out of the house. 

    For some people Covid seems to have had a profound mental effect. 

    There are still people who are CEV, though the phrase is not always used in the same way. 

    The original shielding category was clinically vulnerable, (CV) and referred to people who were at risk if they caught Covid. This was a broad category. 

    The clinically extremely vulnerable (CEV) category is used to describe people whose immune system is compromised, meaning they may not develop antibodies following vaccination. 

    These were the people who were given a third vaccine, before their booster, a much narrower category than the original shielding one. 
  • unforeseen
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    edited 9 March 2022 at 6:49AM

    These were the people who were given a third vaccine, before their booster, a much narrower category than the original shielding one.
    That is the category that I am in. Now waiting for my second booster. I.E. 5th dose. 
    I don't believe the classification CEV is still used, hence my assertion that it is no longer used apart from by the general public. The title of a government Web page produced last month bears this out. 

    Guidance for people previously considered clinically extremely vulnerable from COVID-19


    From the start there were the 2 categories, CV & CEV, 
  • t0rt0ise
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    For the truly extremely vulnerable there are now treatments for if/when we catch covid. I'm sure I'll get it some time and just hope that the treatment works. If you're in this category you'll know how it works with recording a positive lateral flow on the system and then receiving a phone call to discuss and arrange treatment. I know of several people who have gone through this system and are fine, so here's hoping for the rest of us.
  • I'm CEV, I feel like Boris has closed his eyes to Covid as he has to focus on Russia.

     I'm confused as all of a sudden there's no risk, no mask required etc.

    I'm still anxious being around people. I know some of that is social. But my anxiety is made worse by my feeling that the Government not taking it seriously means others won't either? I'm aware of a few people who have had coughs and ignored it and given it to others.

    What are other CEV'ers doing? Feeling? Thinking? 




    I'm not sure i agree the "goverment arn't taking it seriously" because everyone 12+ has had the chance to be fully vaccinated and the vast majority of people are, so now we are at the point where we just need to get back to "normal" lives. Nobody wants to live in lockdown all their lives and this is a very calculated decision which was inevitable and certianly has nothing to do with switch focus to Russia.

    I personally no longer wear a mask and i'm happy to go out anywhere as i did before but i am still aware and if i see someone wearing a mask i will make extra effort to keep at a distance and keep away from them. I do this because people wearing masks are most likely still anxious so no need to uncessarily worry them and hopefully most people will also recognise this. I'm also still aware of physical contact and ensure i keep my hands clean and don't unduly contaminate things in public.

    So i don't think you need to worry about people not taking it seriously around you.

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