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Beckton retail park parking fine to court

Claim issue date : 01.02.2022
AOS Done : 13.02.2022
Deadline for submission: 28.02.2022

Hi,
I received this county court letter where claimant Uk Parking Control Limited.I remember when first receive parking fine letter, it was already discounted period (14 days).So I did not reply on it. Now they took me to the court? I did not find any supportive documents from forum for beckton retail park fine.Should I settle with them by paying or through the court?

Need help please!

Regards
mabu


Comments

  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,585 Forumite
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    edited 24 February 2022 at 12:09PM
    It is not a fine, it is a scam, pay them not a penny umless a judge tells you to.  Please read the newbies and w and also complain to your MP.  Please read the newbies and complaIn to your MP..

    Total Amount £301.48

    They have added what appears to be an extra unlawful amount for debt collection.

    This amounts to double recovery and Judges all over the country are dismissing these spurious additions. Indeed some judges have dismissed entire claims because of this. Read this and complain to Trading Standards and your MP,

    Excel v Wilkinson

    At the Bradford County Court, District Judge Claire Jackson (now HHJ Jackson, a Specialist Civil Circuit Judge) decided to hear a 'test case' a few months ago, where £60 had been added to a parking charge despite Judges up and down the country repeatedly disallowing that sum and warning parking firms not to waste court time with such spurious claims.   That case was Excel v Wilkinson: G4QZ465V, heard in July 2020 and leave to appeal was refused and that route was not pursued.  The Judge concluded that such claims are proceedings with 'an improper collateral purpose'.   This Judge - and others who have since copied her words and struck dozens of cases out in late 2020 and into 2021 - went into significant detail and concluded that parking operators (such as this Claimant) are seeking to circumvent CPR 27.14 as well as breaching the Consumer Rights Act 2015.   DJ Hickinbottom has recently struck more cases out in that court area, stating: ''I find that striking out this claim is the only appropriate manner in which the disapproval of the court can be shown''.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/16qovzulab1szem/G4QZ465V Excel v Wilkinson.pdf?dl=0
    However, VCS appealed this so it may not apply in all cases, read this
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/ntksx9g7177ahyg/VCS v Percy v1 Amendments (2).pdf?dl=0Also read this
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6279348/witness-statements-2-transcripts-re-parking-firms-false-costs-recorder-cohen-qc-judgment-2021/p1
    Also this,

    "Abuse of process – the quantum


    13. In addition to the disputed Parking Charge Notice claim amount of £100, the Claimant has added a sum of £60 that is disingenuously described variously as 'debt collection costs', ‘additional charges levied to cover the cost of recovery’, ‘additional administration costs’, ‘debt recovery costs’, ‘initial legal costs’ and ‘recovery costs’. The added £60 constitutes double recovery and the court is invited to find the quantum claimed is false and an abuse of process as was found by District Judge Claire Jackson (now HHJ Jackson, a Specialist Civil Circuit Judge) in Excel vs Wilkinson: G4QZ465V, a similar case in which £60 had been added to a parking charge, heard in July 2020 (the transcript of which is exhibit XX-04). The Judge concluded that such claims are proceedings with 'an improper collateral purpose'. Leave to appeal was refused and that route was not pursued."


    Also consider complaining to The SRA about the solicitor, if one is involved They are fully aware of the unlawful nature of most of thse additions yet persist in adding them..

    https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/problems/







    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 42,854 Forumite
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    edited 24 February 2022 at 12:26PM
    Should I settle with them by paying or through the court?
    Do you want to pay it, or fight it? The claim form tells you who to pay. 
    I did not find any supportive documents from forum for beckton retail park fine
    The location is somewhat irrelevant if you're searching for silver bullets to get rid of this (there are none), but there are plenty of UKPC court claims that have come out of the woodwork in the past 6 months, have a look at how some of those have been defended. There won't be many (if any) that have gone as far as a hearing. The process is long-winded, taking in most cases around 9 months or so between claim and hearing.  Many claims involving DCB Legal are discontinued nearer the hearing date, as long as the motorist has followed the full legal process and requirements along the way. 

    You can learn more about how all this works by a study of the NEWBIES FAQ Announcement, second post, it's all in there. 

    Have you complained to the landowner and asked them to intervene for (presumably) a customer on the day?  Are you a regular customer at the retail park? If so make the landowner aware of that too. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,218 Forumite
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    That image of your Claim Form clearly shows your MCOL password.

    You have set yourself up for an almighty fall because it is also very easy to read you Claim Number on that image too.

    I've posted more guidance on your other thread.
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