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£180 a month for a 1 bed flat!?!?

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  • Gerry1
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    I trust you are on an E7 tariff, the lower immersion heater is on an E7 circuit switched by the meter and the upper one is permanently switched off?
  • theoretica
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    What is your annual usage in kWh and 1/12 of the annual bill that should give rise to at the new tariff?  Are Shell overestimating your use and trying to charge you for more than you will use in a year?
    What is your monthly winter use?  Are Shell setting your bill throughout the year based on higher winter costs?
    How long were you with Green?  Just over the summer, or was there a winter too?
    Has your monthly use increased strangely from the same season last year?  There is little point getting an electrician in if your readings are low, but Shell are setting the direct debit on some inflated estimate.  It is only if the meter readings have increased that looking at the flat's electrics might find a cause.

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  • tim_p
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    What was the October meter reading when you were moved to Shell?  What is it today?
    if E7 then those readings too please. 
  • sebtomato
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    Before you get the smart meter, buy an electricity meter you can plug between a wall sock and an appliance, so measure in real time usage (for instance, a computer or a TV).

    Some items can use a lot of power, even in standby.

    Typically, heaters and water heaters will use a lot of power. Fridges (particularly older ones) can use a lot too, as they are on all the time. Then there is traditional light bulbs vs. LED etc.
  • No, these days almost no items use “a lot of power” in standby. There’s actually a current thread running on this very forum discussing this subject! 
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  • markin
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    Im sure the are plenty of old TV's and sky boxes out there that do use too much, even if they are just moved to the bedroom.

    The One Watt Initiative is an energy-saving initiative by the International Energy Agency (IEA) to reduce standby power-use by any appliance to no more than one watt in 2010, and 0.5 watts in 2013,

    • Specific requirements for network-connected standby devices were introduced in 2013.
    • Since January 2017 networked standby devices must not consume more than 3 to 12 Watts depending on the product.
    This compares to 20 to 80 Watts previously.


  • Emmia
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    Are you definitely paying for the usage in your flat? Is there any possibility that the meters belonging to you and one of your neighbours may have been mixed up?

    Have you thought about going to a smart meter (if you're not on one already)
  • As people have pointed out, these prices are likely estimates and not actually based on your usage. You will need to check your actual usage and ask for a quote based on that. 

    If this isn't an estimate and is based on usage then there must be something in your flat still using energy. The two main power draws are usually hot water and heating. 
  • Cdegwi said:
    ProDave said:
    If you were only paying £30 per month, you were likely under paying on low estimates, and the increase is to reflect actual usage and pay down a debt probably.

    When will people learn to submit accurate monthly readings (if you don't have a smart meter that does that for you) so you pay actual usage not someones guess at your usage?  then you won't get nasty surrprises like this.
    Thanks for the reply, however please don't patronise me. 
    I submit meter readings on time every month, and I cleared debt with Green when I moved over.



    Your new supplier will be aware that you ran up debt, hardly surprising if you were only paying £30 a month.
    If you were submitting readings every month, then post them here and someone will analyse them for you.

    As it is you had a very cheap deal, and you under paid on that.  Prices have gone up and will go up again, and your new supplier will have no desire to allow you to build a debt with them.
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