We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Left savings but dont have job

Hi there,
So bit of a long explanation but will try to cut it down.
Sadly my father in law died last year of covid and left my mother in law a widow. My mother in law doesn't work and hasn't worked for over 35 years now (raising children) but is still only 59 so of working age.
As of now she has savings of £55000 and is using this to live off. Obviously this is not going to see her through to state pension age and her daughters are explaining to her that she is going to need a job eventually.
If this money wasn't there then she would have to claim UC while looking for work.
Basically what we want to know is, should she get this money spent for her then to be able to claim, or spread this money over a longer time and live cautiously until it is gone?

Comments

  • calcotti
    calcotti Posts: 15,696 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 24 February 2022 at 10:11AM
    What do you mean by 'get this money spent for her'?

    If she spends her money reasonably then she can apply for UC when it drops below £16,000.

    If she gives it away or spends it frivolously then she may be treated as having deprived herself of capital in order to qualify for benefits in which case she will still be treated as having money that she is considered to have deprived herself of.

    It would probably be sensible to get a State Pension forecast.

    (She may also want to consider working.)

    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • sheramber
    sheramber Posts: 23,581 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts I've been Money Tipped! Name Dropper
    Why do you think she should spend her money so she can claim UC?

    What benefit do you think there will be in her claiming UC?
  • Of course getting a job for herself is a must for the future but obviously 35 years out of work and having just lost a husband is still raw at this stage.
    Maybe i should of said it better than " getting this money spent for her" but all we really want to know is can she spread this money over say a 2 year period and not be classed as depriving herself of assets. 

  • theoretica
    theoretica Posts: 12,691 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited 24 February 2022 at 11:31AM
    This is a money saving site, so spending more than you need to is unlikely to be recommended.  Finding her own income while she still has the safety of savings will likely be much less stressful too.

    But a banker, engaged at enormous expense,
    Had the whole of their cash in his care.
    Lewis Carroll
  • calcotti
    calcotti Posts: 15,696 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    pete91210 said:
    .. all we really want to know is can she spread this money over say a 2 year period and not be classed as depriving herself of assets. 
    It all depends on what the money is spent on. What is reasonable depends on her circumstances.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • TELLIT01
    TELLIT01 Posts: 18,372 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper PPI Party Pooper
    Currently she is roughly £40k above the upper limit for UC so spending at £20k per year will see an entitlement to UC in approximately 2 years.  I don't think that is excessive spending as she will presumably either have rent to pay or the upkeep of a property along with all the other bills - which are rising rapidly.  She can certainly spend money on maintaining the property (if owned) and replace 'white goods' and furnishings when necessary.  She can also clear any debts.
  • MEM62
    MEM62 Posts: 5,453 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    pete91210 said:
    As of now she has savings of £55000 and is using this to live off. Obviously this is not going to see her through to state pension age and her daughters are explaining to her that she is going to need a job eventually.
    Why eventually? Seems a little short sighted.  If she seeks employment sooner rather than when the money runs out she will still have a nice sum to offer some support & security in her later years.
  • I would suggest she find employment. If she spends £20k a year and gets used to that then when she finally gets UC it will be a shock. I'm on nowhere near that with 2 children. 
    If she starts work now then she will get an income and have a nest egg that will definitely come in useful when she does retire. 

  • It would be a massive mistake to 'get rid' of £40,000 in order to claim benefits. That money should be a cushion for later years a living on a single pension wont be easy.
  • calcotti
    calcotti Posts: 15,696 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    OP, to be clear, as a single claimant and if she has no rent to pay her UC entitlement would £324.84/month.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.9K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.9K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.7K Spending & Discounts
  • 246K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 602K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.8K Life & Family
  • 259.9K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.