Self Assessment - incorrect

MouldyOldDough

According to my on-line HMRC account - I am registered for Self Assessment

How / Why / When ?

I have never been self assessed - and am now retired

Also - my income for next FY has been incorrectly estimated at about 95% of this FY's amounts - I have corrected that by adding  3.1% to my pensions

What is going on with HMRC ?

Dazed_and_C0nfused

Does it show if a Self Assessment return has been issued for any tax year(s)?

Could you have now met one of the various criteria HMRC have where people with income taxed under PAYE need to complete a tax return?

MouldyOldDough

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

Does it show if a Self Assessment return has been issued for any tax year(s)?

Could you have now met one of the various criteria HMRC have where people with income taxed under PAYE need to complete a tax return?

Nope - no mention other than under account home - It simply says "Your Self Assessment Unique Taxpayer Reference (UTR) is ......"

and under last TY - I paid £0.20 income tax !

No messages have been sent to me either

[Deleted User]

Hi,

if you have a UTR, then you must've registered for SA at sometime.

From Which:

How to get a UTR number

You won't automatically be given a UTR number. You need to register for self-assessment to be issued with one. Here's how to do it:

• Register for self-assessment online: Before you submit a tax return for the first time - say, after you've started a new business - you need to register for self-assessment, which you can do on the HMRC website. When you do this, you will automatically be assigned a UTR number, which will be sent in a letter through the post.
• Apply over the phone: you can call HMRC on 0300 200 3310 to ask about your UTR number. You may have to provide some details, and they may still direct you to apply online.
• Apply by post: you can write to HMRC to request a UTR number. Be aware that it's likely to take a long time as several letters are likely to go back and forth asking you to provide information.

unholyangel

MouldyOldDough said:

According to my on-line HMRC account - I am registered for Self Assessment

How / Why / When ?

I have never been self assessed - and am now retired

Also - my income for next FY has been incorrectly estimated at about 95% of this FY's amounts - I have corrected that by adding  3.1% to my pensions

What is going on with HMRC ?

Is an estimate incorrect, if its at least ballpark? Isn't that exactly what an estimate is? 

I suspect they're using the last full years amount. Or a projection based on what you've earned so far this year. 

But unless you're close to a rate band, it's unlikely to make a difference as long as its roughly right. 

MouldyOldDough

I was last registered for SA - over 10 years ago - I have been on PAYE ever since then

I now see that there is a business account registered under my account - I am a retired private individual with no business links

[Deleted User]

MouldyOldDough said:

I was last registered for SA - over 10 years ago - I have been on PAYE ever since then

I now see that there is a business account registered under my account - I am a retired private individual with no business links

So you are registered for self-assessment. In your case that simply means that you don’t have to register again should the need arise. 

You previously stated that you ‘have never been self-assessed’ - that doesn’t appear to be the case.  Were you ever self-employed?

MouldyOldDough

purdyoaten2 said:

MouldyOldDough said:

I was last registered for SA - over 10 years ago - I have been on PAYE ever since then

I now see that there is a business account registered under my account - I am a retired private individual with no business links

So you are registered for self-assessment. In your case that simply means that you don’t have to register again should the need arise. 

You previously stated that you ‘have never been self-assessed’ - that doesn’t appear to be the case.  Were you ever self-employed?

No I wasnt

Could it possibly be linked to my missing NI credits being credited by DWP - on a NI only basis - this is the only communication that I have had with HMRC in recent years.
I am living on ill health pensions - no benefits

sheramber

I have never been self assessed 

I was last registered for SA - over 10 years ago 

Which is correct?  

MouldyOldDough

@sheramber

I said "I have never been self-employed"

Dazed_and_C0nfused

Self Assessment isn't specifically for the self employed.

There are lots of reasons why a Self Assessment return might need to be completed.