EON - Bills is this right for a 4 bed house? any input appreciated

sys4096

Hi All,

I just got my shock email from EON and essentially going up from £3,340.82 per year to £5,194.14 - I've been told this is unusually high before the increase.
I have a 4 bed (loft ext), 1938 house, double glazed, I don't think I have any good insulation, cooking is all electric and only gas use is heating.
I have wife 2 kids and a dog  
Only unusual things would be electric radiator in my garden shed(home working since pre-covid) that I run and a small home network with a 400 watt peak server on 24x7.
I have a tado unit installed and I have to admit I have heating on 24x7 generally set to 21.5C apart from when we are out.
I do think my house may have poor insulation - i have plenty in the final small eaves of what was left of the loft but there doesn't seem to be any other places I could insulate.

Estimated annual costs until 31 March 2022:

Electricity: £1,974.50

Gas: £1,366.32

Estimated annual costs from 1 April 2022:

Electricity: £2,812.64

Gas: £2,381.50

Price difference:

Electricity: £838.14 increase

Gas: £1,015.18 increase

I was with igloo and got moved to E.ON. I am apparently 600+ in credit with igloo awaiting to be transferred to EON aslo.

Would really appreciate it anyone can weigh in on if this is unusually high or if this is possibly reasonable given my circumstances. I am thinking i need to have the heating completely off at night perhaps which would cover the gas but the electric is very high 

Thanks in advance for any thoughts/opinions

Paul.

Thrugelmir

sys4096 said:

I have to admit I have heating on 24x7 generally set to 21.5C apart from when we are out.

Appears there's huge savings to be made by tweaking the 24x7 regime alone.  

jbuchanangb

How is the water heated? Turn off the shed heater. Turn heating down to 19C. Turn heating off at night. Do your sums based on kWh. Your usage looks to be higher than average. Do some sanity checks to see if there is an appliance consuming high electricity. A blocked pond pump has been a culprit in the past, or an electric immersion heater switched on in a tank which is supposed to be heated by gas.

DiseasedBunny

What units do you use for both? We have a 1930 4 bed end terrace, and with 3 fish tanks and wfh, we use 4500 elec and 10000 gas pa, so about £1500 a year 

MWT

sys4096 said:

... and a small home network with a 400 watt peak server on 24x7.

Have you checked how much it is actually using a day?

If it was running at 400W 24/7/365 that is more than the average UK customer uses just on its own...

That is a lot of power though so I'd have to hope it is not running at that level continuously.

Between that, your electric heater and running your heating 24/7 at a high temperature you can probably account for your high usage right there...

markin

Talking in units is the only way to work it out, and the price per unit you are current on.

The server will be using potentially 3500 a year, so that's like running a second home just there.

What year is the loft conversion, did it have building regs cert?

The_Fat_Controller

Please post the annual usage figures in kWh along with the unit prices, new and old.

wild666

MWT said:

sys4096 said:

... and a small home network with a 400 watt peak server on 24x7.

Have you checked how much it is actually using a day?

If it was running at 400W 24/7/365 that is more than the average UK customer uses just on its own...

That is a lot of power though so I'd have to hope it is not running at that level continuously.

Between that, your electric heater and running your heating 24/7 at a high temperature you can probably account for your high usage right there...

As said, check how much energy is being used by appliances you can buy a plug that monitors usage,https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/294764464843?hash=item44a154cacb:g:u7gAAOSwX5lc29pz
Less than £10 place the plug from the appliance into the plug then into the socket and monitor it for a set period, I would suggest a minimum of 24 hours, then multiply by 365 to give an approxamate yearly usage. This can be done on any appliance with or without input of the kWh price, just be sure you use the kWh price with the VAT added when calculating the usage

Shedman

Or even more convenient for energy monitoring try a TP-Link Tapo P110 smart plug (P110 as it has the energy monitoring not the slightly cheaper P100) £14.99 from Amazon and you can monitor the energy an appliance is using remotely on your phone or tablet using the app. And if you have iphone/ipad there's also an app called Watt (free unless you want to monitor multiple smart plugs) that gives even better energy consumption info from the Tapo (and Kasa) energy monitoring smart plugs


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