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False loan agreement claim from a liquidator

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HFB
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I have just received a letter from a liquidator saying I owe money (£10,000) in relation to a loan agreement I took out in Sept 2018 with a company that was owned by my sisters, now ex, vindictive boyfriend, who has a reputation for underhand financial activities. I have written back to the liquidator asking for evidence of the agreement, using a template citing my legal rights to proof etc. My concern is that he has forged my signature on some sort of agreement. I have never done business with him or his company and never lent to or borrowed money from him. Aside from appointing a handwriting expert, if indeed they do have false paperwork, what other courses of action can I take?  
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  • You won't need a handwriting expert. If they have an agreement, it won't have a wet signature.

    If they produce an agreement and it's not yours, you simply dispute it and report as fraud.
  • nyermen
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    Presumably there'll be a money trail that shows the money going to that other party as well.  
    Peter

    Debt free - finally finished paying off £20k + Interest.
  • Have you spoken to your sister about this?
  • HFB said:
    I have just received a letter from a liquidator saying I owe money (£10,000) in relation to a loan agreement I took out in Sept 2018 with a company that was owned by my sisters, now ex, vindictive boyfriend, who has a reputation for underhand financial activities. I have written back to the liquidator asking for evidence of the agreement, using a template citing my legal rights to proof etc. My concern is that he has forged my signature on some sort of agreement. I have never done business with him or his company and never lent to or borrowed money from him. Aside from appointing a handwriting expert, if indeed they do have false paperwork, what other courses of action can I take?  
    Did he ever pay you £10,000 in any form, eg. for some work you did? 
  • HFB
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    nyermen said:
    Presumably there'll be a money trail that shows the money going to that other party as well.  
    No money was ever exchanged. It's a complete fabrication. Very long story, but he not a nice person and is out to cause as much trouble and grief to my sister and anyone around her to bolster his power trip ego.

  • HFB
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    Have you spoken to your sister about this?
    Yes, she is aware. He has also done the same thing to her directly (for £80K), her son and my 82 year old mother. All of us have had letters from the receivers for loan from this company he set up that has since ceased trading and taken over by receivers. Before going into receivership, he resigned directorship and made his cousin a director, so he is not making direct or indirect contact with my sister of her family. This is because he currently has a non molestation order against him for controlling and coercive behaviour toward her.
  • HFB
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    HFB said:
    I have just received a letter from a liquidator saying I owe money (£10,000) in relation to a loan agreement I took out in Sept 2018 with a company that was owned by my sisters, now ex, vindictive boyfriend, who has a reputation for underhand financial activities. I have written back to the liquidator asking for evidence of the agreement, using a template citing my legal rights to proof etc. My concern is that he has forged my signature on some sort of agreement. I have never done business with him or his company and never lent to or borrowed money from him. Aside from appointing a handwriting expert, if indeed they do have false paperwork, what other courses of action can I take?  
    Did he ever pay you £10,000 in any form, eg. for some work you did? 
    Nope. No money ever exchanged between us. I refused to have any financial dealings with him, just because I know what he's like. He is very successful in the banking trade, but sets up companies, works for them as a contractor, being paid a minimal subsistence income to avoid paying his ex wife any child support. 

    A very unpleasant character when he feels he has been wronged!
  • bris
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    The liquidators need more than just his word.

    If they have proof it will be presented. 

    How was this loan meant to be paid, there would be a paper trail. 
  • TripleH
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    edited 23 February 2022 at 5:06PM
    The liquidators should be professional people (you have to be to do that work). If the reports are shown to be fraudulent, you need to push that back on the liquidators using words like "fraud etc" force their hand to investigate.
    They cannot ignore such complaints, if it is suspected fraud, go to the police (the ex might not get a criminal record but it will make his life hard especially if he works in the banking sector).
    Payments out can be described as anything, so if his argument (and paper trail) say it was to you, push back for evidence which account money went to and that you have connection to that account. The money could have gone to his offshore coke^ fund but described on statement to 'payment to HFB'.

    ^- other colas are available.
    May you find your sister soon Helli.
    Sleep well.
  • HFB
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    edited 2 March 2022 at 10:25AM
    Just had the letter back from the liquidator and they sent me a copy of a loan agreement between his, now dissolved company and myself personally with my signature and a witnesses signature on it also.

    Not sure if it is because it's a copy, but all of the signatures are quite digitised and pixelated.

    Also, I should have started paying this loan back from Jan 2019 according to this agreement! 

    The liquidators have given me 2 courses of action. To either contact them to make payment arrangements or to confirm that I have no knowledge of this agreement and they will pass back to the receivers to commence fraud investigations.

    Obviously I will respond with option 2, but again, is there anything else I should be doing at this stage also (like go to the police now I have physical evidence of his fraudulent actions)?

    Thank again


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