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Amazon & Customs Charges
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Sandtree said:
The £135 is for VAT. I'd be astonished if the seller has to ship DDP. It would make sense though but then the shipper would have to add that on to the price quoted. Not sure that is possible.
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Great comments, thanks. It's just too easy to hit click-and-buy, Amazon should make it clear that a foreign purchase may incur C&E charges - it did not, nor was it clear at time of purchase that it would come from overseas, it was bought from Amazon Uk site
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No, the £135 is the point where liability for paying taxes switches under the new post Brexit rules... under £135 the vendor has to pay them unless its sold via a "market place" in which case the market place has to ensure they are paid. Over £135 the liability switches to the importer... VAT and overseas goods sold directly to customers in the UK - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)Phantom151 said:Sandtree said:
The £135 is for VAT. I'd be astonished if the seller has to ship DDP. It would make sense though but then the shipper would have to add that on to the price quoted. Not sure that is possible.
Technically the sub £135 only applies to sales to consumers and not businesses where the business has provided its VAT number but the OP hasnt clarified if their account is a business one and anyway the sale was over £1350 -
Sandtree said:
No, the £135 is the point where liability for paying taxes switches under the new post Brexit rules... under £135 the vendor has to pay them unless its sold via a "market place" in which case the market place has to ensure they are paid. Over £135 the liability switches to the importer... VAT and overseas goods sold directly to customers in the UK - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)Phantom151 said:Sandtree said:
The £135 is for VAT. I'd be astonished if the seller has to ship DDP. It would make sense though but then the shipper would have to add that on to the price quoted. Not sure that is possible.
Technically the sub £135 only applies to sales to consumers and not businesses where the business has provided its VAT number but the OP hasnt clarified if their account is a business one and anyway the sale was over £135
The £135 point is only applicable to VAT. Duty is charged regardless of value (assuming the import tariff code is not 0%). Your link only talks about VAT although the bit that states "...value goes above £135 they may be liable for import VAT and Customs Duty, " is badly worded.
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No, duty has been set at £135 for a long time, the change was only to VAT that was previously lower but always the importer's responsibility.Phantom151 said:Sandtree said:
No, the £135 is the point where liability for paying taxes switches under the new post Brexit rules... under £135 the vendor has to pay them unless its sold via a "market place" in which case the market place has to ensure they are paid. Over £135 the liability switches to the importer... VAT and overseas goods sold directly to customers in the UK - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)Phantom151 said:Sandtree said:
The £135 is for VAT. I'd be astonished if the seller has to ship DDP. It would make sense though but then the shipper would have to add that on to the price quoted. Not sure that is possible.
Technically the sub £135 only applies to sales to consumers and not businesses where the business has provided its VAT number but the OP hasnt clarified if their account is a business one and anyway the sale was over £135
The £135 point is only applicable to VAT. Duty is charged regardless of value (assuming the import tariff code is not 0%). Your link only talks about VAT although the bit that states "...value goes above £135 they may be liable for import VAT and Customs Duty, " is badly worded.
Excise duty is £00 -
I got caught out on a purchase from the USA some years ago. Thankfully the item purchased wasn't hugely expensive - a CD not available at the time in the UK. However, charges from various sources more than doubled the price.
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Sandtree said:
No, duty has been set at £135 for a long time, the change was only to VAT that was previously lower but always the importer's responsibility.Phantom151 said:Sandtree said:
No, the £135 is the point where liability for paying taxes switches under the new post Brexit rules... under £135 the vendor has to pay them unless its sold via a "market place" in which case the market place has to ensure they are paid. Over £135 the liability switches to the importer... VAT and overseas goods sold directly to customers in the UK - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)Phantom151 said:Sandtree said:
The £135 is for VAT. I'd be astonished if the seller has to ship DDP. It would make sense though but then the shipper would have to add that on to the price quoted. Not sure that is possible.
Technically the sub £135 only applies to sales to consumers and not businesses where the business has provided its VAT number but the OP hasnt clarified if their account is a business one and anyway the sale was over £135
The £135 point is only applicable to VAT. Duty is charged regardless of value (assuming the import tariff code is not 0%). Your link only talks about VAT although the bit that states "...value goes above £135 they may be liable for import VAT and Customs Duty, " is badly worded.
Excise duty is £0
Apologies, you are correct.
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Hi, it is one of the Amazon rules for sellers, as a customer has a right to expect an item they bought in their own country to be free from import taxes, and have to be sent DDP.Sandtree said:
Eg. - as a UK retailer if a customer buys an item from me, in uk there are no duties - if it is a German customer then the German customer pays - under limit £135 this will be taken at source by Amazon under new IOSS / OSS rules - over that customer pays as they bought from overseas
however if I listed an item on German site then German customers have a right to expect import duty free… so I would have to send DDP - Amazon will not collect as over £135, so I have to sort it.
so reversing that - did the customer buy from Amazon uk (ie retailer listed on foreign site), or did customer go to foreign amazon to buy.
Former - German retailer should pay (and include in price and shipping method); latter it’s on the customer
The IOSS / OSS rules (where marketplaces are “deemed suppliers” and have to collect vat only apply up to the £135 and only B2C sales - if customer bought on Business amazon account (as provided EORI number) then Amazon would not collect.0 -
The OP said above they bought from the Amazon UK site
If so, they should expect to pay no duty fees etc
Not sure what Amazon remedy they have - if any0 -
In January ParcelForce invoiced my company for over £130,
The OP appears to have been buying through a business account. Does that change anything?
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