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Lost a court case

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I was taken to court by Elite Car Parking Management, I argued the usual points around contract, poor signage etc and whilst the judge agreed with it he decided that I chose to park and took the risk hence why he is siding with the claimant. 

I was shocked, he agreed with the points, even told the solicitor off for the poor signage but then did a 360 to flip on me - what a whirlwind of emotions thinking I had won it only for it to be snatched away at the last moment 

Is there anything else that I can do or do I need to pay the full amount as told by the judge?
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  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    edited 13 February 2022 at 2:03AM
    Sorry to read that.

    You need to pay the full amount decided by the Judge within the timescale he stated to avoid a lasting County Court Judgment affecting you ability to obtain credit for the next six years.

    Reading your earlier thread - Estate Parking - Defense clarification, it looks like you didn't seek any further guidance from the forum after showing us the first draft of your Defence.

    Did the judge at least knock off the made up charges from their claim?
  • 95Rollers
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    edited 13 February 2022 at 10:20AM
    That's a real shame. Please tell me that you only paid the original PCN amount and the judge knocked off all their "£60/70 admin fees/ debt recovery" nonsense off!!!

    Sadly you'll have to pay up or speak to the court to arrange a payment plan maybe.  Sad to hear this. Hopefully with the new change in law cases like yours will be much rarer.
  • fisherjim
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    CM made this last post on your original thread (where you should have posted this result anyway) but you never replied:

    That defence reads as though you are clutching at straws. 

    You haven’t adapted a residential defence about your right to stop there to access your property (you haven’t even told the Judge you were a resident, as opposed to a trespasser) nor said if you were driving or not.  You haven’t mentioned the right to unload or any verbal agreement.
    You’ve just gone for ‘it’s non-POFA’ and ‘the signs are forbidding’ neither of which are facts, they are legal arguments that may not stick, then what facts are you left with?

  • I miss @Coupon-mad , @Redx and the other fallen soldiers 😔  I'm hoping they'll be back soon or at least on their backup accounts.
  • Half_way
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    95Rollers said:
    I miss @Coupon-mad , @Redx and the other fallen soldiers 😔  I'm hoping they'll be back soon or at least on their backup accounts.

    Whats happened??

    As for the court loss, there could be some options on the table, to at least get the money back.
     Fisherjim said that there is another post concerning this case , if this is an own space/residential matter then there will be some options, but it will require a little effort, work and some understanding - if you have a link to the main post it will help to continue there
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • Half_way said:
    95Rollers said:
    I miss @Coupon-mad , @Redx and the other fallen soldiers 😔  I'm hoping they'll be back soon or at least on their backup accounts.

    Whats happened??
    Both got binned as they spoke to people like they were idiots. Which, to be fair, they did. Especially the latter.
  • Half_way
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    Would be interesting to see the post(s) that caused the issues, ive said on here many times before ( and to others) that some replys can be a bit blunt , and it can be incredibly frustrating when you ask someone a question and they do not answer , and instead proceed to shoot themselves in the foot. and again over the last 6 months or so some topics/posts have vanished / been removed by mods that do not, on the surface appear to have broken any forum rules, but have contained useful information ( ie publicly named figures in the parking world who have known histories that would be relevant to creating a strong a landowner complaint)

    Right back on track...
    As for the issue on the lost court case, was this a residential case? was this an own space case?
    is there a link to the original thread ( if one exists)
     If it is/was an own space issue then its important to fight back , as showing acceptance of the parking company, either by accepting this and/or doing nothing can cause issues further along the way  for the renter, and the landowner , as effectively the rights to the property have been handed over to a third party which will have a huge effect if it is to be sold , and on any future issues around parking
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • Jenni_D
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    The first reply from @KeithP has a link to what I presume was the OP's original thread. :)

    Jenni x
  • fisherjim
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    Half_way said:


    Right back on track...
    As for the issue on the lost court case, was this a residential case? was this an own space case?
    is there a link to the original thread ( if one exists)

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6274069/estate-parking-defense-clarification/p1

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