Royal Mail barcoding stamps - existing stamps valid only until 31 Jan 2023

soolin

It’s really not worth selling those top ones. They sell for considerably less than face value 
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GB-CASTLES-Definitives-Miniature-Sheet-Stamps-SG-MS2530-MNH-2005-/325191673986?hash=item4bb6ef2882%3Ag%3AmZ4AAOSwUDNign6T&nma=true&si=IunBlDdCEiFQ5kCpTnlgZKd3JVY%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

There are £3 worth of stamps and that sale made the seller approx £1.15 after fees and postage. 

NBLondon

soolin said:

It’s really not worth selling those top ones. 

I said they could be sold - I didn't say they could be sold profitably 

I have long had the habit of buying older commemoratives on eBay to use for postage.  It's weirdly up and down - I've had some great bargains and some where I've thought - who paid that?  Whether the values are convenient ones may make a difference too.  I wouldn't bid 10p for that Castles set because the stamps aren't a useful value - but this is:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134127412348?hash=item1f3a9de47c:g:0mgAAOSwfl9ii9YL

I have bought these under face back when it could be used as 4x 1st class - today it can be used as 2x 1st and 2nd.   I'd pay no more than £2 for it though.

anotheruser

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molerat said:

It would have been  nice to get books back but you sent in 1st class stamps and got 1st class stamps back.  Just tear them off in strips of 4 x 2 and fold in half into a booklet, simples.

I think you've missed the point.

We purchased booklets from the RM website (which is what we paid for and what we wanted) and now through no fault of our own we have to change what we originally purchased with no recourse. Would you accept this with any other product purchased online? I doubt it.

No, you purchased stamps.
How they're transported or stored is irrelevant.

I buy a product online.
How it arrives or method of arrival is of no concern to me (obviously so long as the product isn't damaged).

You won't see it like that because you're desperate for books but it's just one of those things.  You're not missing out, so just manage as best you can with the sheets and go back to buying books.

We purchased books of stamps and we expected books of stamps back.

If you bought a new red car from a dealer and they delivered a green one, I suppose you would be happy with that.

Just because you don't use books of stamps, don't assume that others don't want them.

You purchase stamps.
The method of how they are stored is irrelevant.

If I purchased a green car that was due to come on the back of one of those multi-car carriers but it arrived on the back of a low loader instead, I wouldn't care - I still have the green car.

You purchased stamps, you got stamps in return.
You did not purchase 1st Class stamps and got a different product (like 2nd Class stamps) in return.

If I purchased a green car, that is the product and I expect a green car.
If a red one arrives, I am not receiving the product I bought.

The stamp books are not the product, the stamps are.
I appreciate sheets are not ideal (I have had my books back on sheets too!), but I store all my stamps in a little tub anyway so just split the stamps along the perforated lines and they al fit in the tub, better than the books did I should add.

I'm sorry you won't see it the way nearly everyone else does but there is NOTHING that you can do to change the fact of what you have.

Yes, we have to put up with a different product from that which we originally purchased.

It's a con.

I won't be replying again.
I don't know why you cannot accept you have purchased STAMPS, not the books they are in.

But you'll just have to continue stomping your feet that you didn't get books.
Nobody cares.

petersy

anotheruser said:

petersy said:

anotheruser said:

petersy said:

anotheruser said:

petersy said:

molerat said:

It would have been  nice to get books back but you sent in 1st class stamps and got 1st class stamps back.  Just tear them off in strips of 4 x 2 and fold in half into a booklet, simples.

I think you've missed the point.

We purchased booklets from the RM website (which is what we paid for and what we wanted) and now through no fault of our own we have to change what we originally purchased with no recourse. Would you accept this with any other product purchased online? I doubt it.

No, you purchased stamps.
How they're transported or stored is irrelevant.

I buy a product online.
How it arrives or method of arrival is of no concern to me (obviously so long as the product isn't damaged).

You won't see it like that because you're desperate for books but it's just one of those things.  You're not missing out, so just manage as best you can with the sheets and go back to buying books.

We purchased books of stamps and we expected books of stamps back.

If you bought a new red car from a dealer and they delivered a green one, I suppose you would be happy with that.

Just because you don't use books of stamps, don't assume that others don't want them.

You purchase stamps.
The method of how they are stored is irrelevant.

If I purchased a green car that was due to come on the back of one of those multi-car carriers but it arrived on the back of a low loader instead, I wouldn't care - I still have the green car.

You purchased stamps, you got stamps in return.
You did not purchase 1st Class stamps and got a different product (like 2nd Class stamps) in return.

If I purchased a green car, that is the product and I expect a green car.
If a red one arrives, I am not receiving the product I bought.

The stamp books are not the product, the stamps are.
I appreciate sheets are not ideal (I have had my books back on sheets too!), but I store all my stamps in a little tub anyway so just split the stamps along the perforated lines and they al fit in the tub, better than the books did I should add.

I'm sorry you won't see it the way nearly everyone else does but there is NOTHING that you can do to change the fact of what you have.

Yes, we have to put up with a different product from that which we originally purchased.

It's a con.

I won't be replying again.
I don't know why you cannot accept you have purchased STAMMPS, not the books they are in.

But you'll just have to continue stomping your feet that you didn't get books.
Nobody cares.

You should use a spell checker.

Codger1947

The other day I watched a most interesting YouTube video by "My Mate Vince" on how to detect fake stamps.  I looked through my supply and they all look OK, except for some "Large 2nds" on which I cannot see security features when I look at them in sunlight.  I asked my local post office if they were genuine, and was told they were perhaps from a batch produced before the security features were introduced.  This seemed a bit strange to me.  Any thoughts?

molerat

The local PO will be no wiser than the average man in the street.

TOP_CAT

I used a local PO sending a package that needed  1 x .04p stamp which was added at the counter by staff .

The PO guy used a single .05p stamp without any of the security cutouts ....they were completely missing .
He franked all stamps on the parcel and chucked it in with all the others for sending  

They had likely mishandled the stamp and lost the security cutouts I would guess but still wanted the stamp value so settled for 04p .

NBLondon

Codger1947 said:

The other day I watched a most interesting YouTube video by "My Mate Vince" on how to detect fake stamps.  I looked through my supply and they all look OK, except for some "Large 2nds" on which I cannot see security features when I look at them in sunlight.  I asked my local post office if they were genuine, and was told they were perhaps from a batch produced before the security features were introduced.  This seemed a bit strange to me.  Any thoughts?

If they were Large 1st - the colour might be a clue.  1st Large came in 1st August 2006 - and 1st class was still gold then;  the security cut outs arrived in Feb 2009 and the colour changed to the current "Royal Mail Red" in 2013.

Unfortunately Large 2nd have been blue throughout that....

custardy

Codger1947 said:

The other day I watched a most interesting YouTube video by "My Mate Vince" on how to detect fake stamps.  I looked through my supply and they all look OK, except for some "Large 2nds" on which I cannot see security features when I look at them in sunlight.  I asked my local post office if they were genuine, and was told they were perhaps from a batch produced before the security features were introduced.  This seemed a bit strange to me.  Any thoughts?

Why would you think your PO would have a clue?
They sell stamps they get from a 100% legit source.RM

Codger1947

custardy said:

Why would you think your PO would have a clue?
They sell stamps they get from a 100% legit source.RM

It is quite likely that I bought them at a local store, not at a PO.