Hilariously bad energy advice from Shell

QrizB

Gerry1 said:

QrizB said:

grumbler said:

• air conditioning - 10p per hour (nonsense)
  

In Shell's defence, that article was written in 2020 and seems based on electricity at 12p/kWh. If that's the case then 10p/hr is about 800W, which is the right ballpark for a 9-12000 BTU/hr aircon, either portable or mini split.

By definition, Shell Energy are well aware of the rise in energy prices and should have updated or removed the article to prevent it becoming even more misleading and confusing.

Are Shell actively promoting that page at the moment? If so, I agree that they should update it.

If it's not being promoted I don't see why they would need to change it.

jimjames

QrizB said:

Gerry1 said:

QrizB said:

grumbler said:

• air conditioning - 10p per hour (nonsense)
  

In Shell's defence, that article was written in 2020 and seems based on electricity at 12p/kWh. If that's the case then 10p/hr is about 800W, which is the right ballpark for a 9-12000 BTU/hr aircon, either portable or mini split.

By definition, Shell Energy are well aware of the rise in energy prices and should have updated or removed the article to prevent it becoming even more misleading and confusing.

Are Shell actively promoting that page at the moment? If so, I agree that they should update it.

If it's not being promoted I don't see why they would need to change it.

With it referring to "2.5kWh per hour" amongst other gems it should never have been produced or promoted at any point!

Gerry1

elsien said:

Ref your first point, can’t see how £0.20p would  be interpreted as £20 given the placing  of the decimal point. 

@elsien @Qew @grumbler If you were unwise enough to sign a contract to buy 1000 thingies at "£10.50p each" you might be a wee bit miffed if you thought the units were pence and expected a bill of £105.00 but were charged £10,500.00 because the units were pounds !

If both £ and p are shown you don't know whether the units are pounds or pence, so the ambiguity could prove to be a very expensive mistake.

A multi-national energy company should always be capable of showing prices correctly and unambiguously.

PennineAcute

I do like their average use of a PC.  I very much doubt a gaming PC is an average PC.  This would be the top end.  Most home PCs average around 100 W, with mine (including monitor) around 60W.

PennineAcute

Gerry1 said:

elsien said:

Ref your first point, can’t see how £0.20p would  be interpreted as £20 given the placing  of the decimal point. 

@elsien @Qew @grumbler If you were unwise enough to sign a contract to buy 1000 thingies at "£10.50p each" you might be a wee bit miffed if you thought the units were pence and expected a bill of £105.00 but were charged £10,500.00 because the units were pounds !

If both £ and p are shown you don't know whether the units are pounds or pence, so the ambiguity could prove to be a very expensive mistake.

A multi-national energy company should always be capable of showing prices correctly and unambiguously.

As an adult maths and English teacher, I always teach my students that monetary amounts should be in pounds or pence.  So £3.51 or 351p.  Anything else is completely wrong - and I was also taught this in primary school in the 70s.

Qew

Gerry1 said:

elsien said:

Ref your first point, can’t see how £0.20p would  be interpreted as £20 given the placing  of the decimal point. 

@elsien @Qew @grumbler If you were unwise enough to sign a contract to buy 1000 thingies at "£10.50p each" you might be a wee bit miffed if you thought the units were pence and expected a bill of £105.00 but were charged £10,500.00 because the units were pounds !

If both £ and p are shown you don't know whether the units are pounds or pence, so the ambiguity could prove to be a very expensive mistake.

A multi-national energy company should always be capable of showing prices correctly and unambiguously.

No, the £ sign at the front would take precedence, as we scan from left to right when reading. There is no ambiguity here, despite your attempts to create one. It's wrong and the "p" is redundant, but it's not ambiguous.

Anyway, this is distracting from the other good points you've made in your initial post, so I'll end this here.