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ispookie666
ispookie666 Posts: 1,194 Forumite
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Had our Economy 7 meter replaced with a smart meter from Eon Next. 
The smart meter seems to be on single rate tariff. Can I get eon to move me to Economy 7 with the same smart meter? Or is the economy 7 smart meter completely different? 
The installed meter is Landis+Gyr E470 ( the one with button A and B)
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  • Verdigris
    Verdigris Posts: 1,725 Forumite
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    Have you scrolled through the screens to see if there is an off-peak (R2) rate showing?
  • MWT
    MWT Posts: 10,273 Forumite
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    edited 29 January 2022 at 12:03AM
    Had our Economy 7 meter replaced with a smart meter from Eon Next. 
    The smart meter seems to be on single rate tariff. Can I get eon to move me to Economy 7 with the same smart meter? Or is the economy 7 smart meter completely different? 
    The installed meter is Landis+Gyr E470 ( the one with button A and B)
    Pretty much every smart meter is capable of multi-rate support, you don't need a special meter.
    We had that exact meter with E7.
    You will hear mention of 5-port smart meters for E7, although not necessary, they do have a built in contactor for load switching when you have something like night storage heaters, but even with a 4 port meter like the one you have it can be done using and external contactor switched via the ALCS connection built into the meter.


  • Had our Economy 7 meter replaced with a smart meter from Eon Next. 
    The smart meter seems to be on single rate tariff. Can I get eon to move me to Economy 7 with the same smart meter? Or is the economy 7 smart meter completely different? 
    The installed meter is Landis+Gyr E470 ( the one with button A and B)
    All smart meters have 4 registers capable of recording usage in 30 minute blocks. E.oN Next is using a billing platform developed by Kraken Technologies ( a part of the Octopus Energy Group). I have no idea how E.oN Next is billing with the Kraken system. Octopus, however, is using 30 minute usage data for all smart tariff billing not index readings. It follows that my 2-price tariff uses a single register.
  • ispookie666
    ispookie666 Posts: 1,194 Forumite
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    Thank you all.  
    I have contacted Eon Next via email.  Will see what excuse they come up with.  
    Is there a lock in period after installing smart meter? 
    I had solar panels installed a few days ago - if they are not yet MCS registered is there any point in looking at Export units and Net Import units?
    “Don't raise your voice, improve your argument." - Desmond Tutu

    System 1 - 14 x 250W SunModule SW + Enphase ME215 microinverters (July 2015)
    System 2 - 9.2 KWp + Enphase IQ7+ and IQ8AC (Feb 22 & Sep 24) + Givenergy AC Coupled inverter + 2 * 8.2KWh Battery (May 2022) + Mitsubishi 7.1 KW and 2* Daikin 2.5 KW A2A Heat Pump
  • Thank you all.  
    I have contacted Eon Next via email.  Will see what excuse they come up with.  
    Is there a lock in period after installing smart meter? 
    I had solar panels installed a few days ago - if they are not yet MCS registered is there any point in looking at Export units and Net Import units?
    There is no lock in period with smart meters. If you are looking to claim SEG payments for your solar exports then you will need a smart meter which is configured for two MPANs: one for import and the other for export. From recent personal experience with Octopus, they will want to see the MCS Certificate and the DNO approval for your system before they will apply to the DNO for an export MPAN.
  • QrizB
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    edited 29 January 2022 at 3:36PM
    Is there a lock in period after installing smart meter?
    No, there isn't a lock-in.
    I had solar panels installed a few days ago - if they are not yet MCS registered is there any point in looking at Export units and Net Import units?
    You'll alreasdy be benefitting from any electricity you generate and manage to use yourself.
    Once you get your handover pack from your installer (which will include your MCS Certificate) you'll be able to sign up for SEG.
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  • ispookie666
    ispookie666 Posts: 1,194 Forumite
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    Looks like EON next have sorted this out!  
    Waiting for my MCS for the solar 
    “Don't raise your voice, improve your argument." - Desmond Tutu

    System 1 - 14 x 250W SunModule SW + Enphase ME215 microinverters (July 2015)
    System 2 - 9.2 KWp + Enphase IQ7+ and IQ8AC (Feb 22 & Sep 24) + Givenergy AC Coupled inverter + 2 * 8.2KWh Battery (May 2022) + Mitsubishi 7.1 KW and 2* Daikin 2.5 KW A2A Heat Pump
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