POPLA haven't made a decision but received an email from the PCN company

Iqs49

Hello, hoping anyone can tell me what to do now. 

So I received a pcn from CarFlow and I appealed using the template. It was rejected but then I submitted a POPLA appeal. Now I've had an email from CarFlow saying they'll cancel the pcn if I withdraw my POPLA appeal. However I need to cancel that first and then email them and they'll cancel. My question is should I email back and tell them to cancel first then I'll withdraw or play the long game and see what happens with the POPLA appeal.

D_P_Dance

Did they use the words "without prejudice"?  If not tell them to sling ther hook.  

Redx

My opinion is

Can you trust carflow to cancel the PCN if you cancel Popla ?

If you cancelled and they didn't , you would not get a second appeal

I would want the offer in writing and signed by them , in case it went to court !

Iqs49

D_P_Dance said:

Did they use the words "without prejudice"?  If not tell them to sling ther hook.  

This is what they said:
"However, considering the circumstances we are willing to be lenient on this occasion. In future we will not be able to cancel parking charges unless the correct amount is paid for your stay.

If you withdraw your POPLA appeal we will cancel this parking charge. Please respond to this email when you have withdrawn your appeal and the parking charge will be cancelled."

Iqs49

Redx said:

My opinion is

Can you trust carflow to cancel the PCN if you cancel Popla ?

If you cancelled and they didn't , you would not get a second appeal

I would want the offer in writing and signed by them , in case it went to court !

that's what I'm thinking, I might email them back saying they have to cancel first then I'll withdraw 

Coupon-mad

No, just do it and I'm sure @AnotherForumite or @Thrugelmir would say the fact they've promised in writing to cancel is enough.

Carflow are high up with some influence in the BPA (see their people/operator board page) and they read this forum and wouldn't dare promise to cancel then renege.

Thrugelmir

Coupon-mad said:

No, just do it and I'm sure @AnotherForumite or @Thrugelmir would say the fact they've promised in writing to cancel is enough.  Carflow read this forum and wouldn't dare promise to cancel then renege.

If only the world wasn't grey in colour. Not the black and white picture that social media keyboard warriors crusaders attempt to paint.

The_Slithy_Tove

Iqs49 said:

If you withdraw your POPLA appeal we will cancel this parking charge. Please respond to this email when you have withdrawn your appeal and the parking charge will be cancelled."

But why would they need to do it on that condition. If they cancel first, then there is no POPLA appeal, as there is no longer anything to appeal against. Guess it depends on whether the PPC has stumped up their POPLA fee yet. I am guessing they want to avoid that as they know they'll lose.

Coupon-mad

Thrugelmir said:

Coupon-mad said:

No, just do it and I'm sure @AnotherForumite or @Thrugelmir would say the fact they've promised in writing to cancel is enough.  Carflow read this forum and wouldn't dare promise to cancel then renege.

If only the world wasn't grey in colour. Not the black and white picture that social media keyboard warriors crusaders attempt to paint.

It will be black and white for you, once the new Code comes in, won't you prefer that to the murky grey areas parking firms seek to exploit?

PPCs need to be in the spotlight and squeaky clean and we'd have respect for the industry for the first time ever, and I could retire from MSE or move on to another scam!

You know I'm more than a mere keyboard warrior, I suspect.

Anyway, as you saw, I say Carflow can be trusted to cancel and wouldn't the World be a better place if PPCs did so more often, or just didn't set up contracts that incentivise themselves to issue xxx PCNs per month?

Thrugelmir

Coupon-mad said:

Thrugelmir said:

Coupon-mad said:

No, just do it and I'm sure @AnotherForumite or @Thrugelmir would say the fact they've promised in writing to cancel is enough.  Carflow read this forum and wouldn't dare promise to cancel then renege.

If only the world wasn't grey in colour. Not the black and white picture that social media keyboard warriors crusaders attempt to paint.

It will be black and white for you, once the new Code comes in, won't you prefer that to the grey areas parking firms seek to exploit?

Anyway, as you saw, I say Carflow can be trusted to cancel and wouldn't the World be a better place if PPCs did so more often, or just didn't set up contracts that incentivise themselves to issue xxx PCNs per month?

There's bad apples in every industry. People will always try to exploit loop holes to their own advantage. Whether it's to make or not to pay money. Depending upon what side of the fence they are sitting. 

Coupon-mad

Yep, although in the PPC and their parasite DRA industry, the bad apples almost poisoned the whole tree, so 'root and branch' changes were needed, don't you think?

One hopes that most loopholes will be closed on both sides and that parking charges will be fairer and ultimately, contracts less incentivised.  There are parking consultants already advertising to advise on ways to achieve parking management without incentivisation by PCN number.

Perhaps I should set up as a parking consultant?  Not sure they like me much, though...