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  • Sandtree
    Sandtree Posts: 10,628 Forumite
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    Shunts are slightly different because there will always be the question of the sequencing... did car 2 hit the rear of car 1 and then car 3 hit rear of car 2 or did car 3 hit car 2 and push them into car 1

    In these circumstances are car 1 is effectively an independent witness and how many "bumps" they felt, in the absence of CCTV/Dashcam is a good yard stick if the other two parties dont agree what happened.
  • I know people that have brake checked others and taken no liability from the resulting crash.
    Sure, with no dash cam footage that could well happen. Even if the BMW behind is on your bumper and are at fault for not leaving space, if you brake check them and they crash or report you and have footage of you doing it, plod may well come and have a word with you and insurer might well be less favourable
  • DB1904
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    This type of shunt will become more common when cars (that don't indicate left) stop to let a pedestrian cross the road.
    MSM, meaning that you should check your mirrors before doing a manoeuvre, so you should only stop if it's safe to do so.
    Although the driver in front cannot read minds.

    So are you saying if it's unsafe to stop you should run over the pedestrians?
  • Car_54
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    This type of shunt will become more common when cars (that don't indicate left) stop to let a pedestrian cross the road.
    MSM, meaning that you should check your mirrors before doing a manoeuvre, so you should only stop if it's safe to do so.
    Although the driver in front cannot read minds.

    An emergency stop is one manoeuvre where MSM is not appropriate.
  • I know people that have brake checked others and taken no liability from the resulting crash.
    Sure, with no dash cam footage that could well happen. Even if the BMW behind is on your bumper and are at fault for not leaving space, if you brake check them and they crash or report you and have footage of you doing it, plod may well come and have a word with you and insurer might well be less favourable
    No, not could well happen, it's happened. No questions asked by either party insurers. Settled in less than 16hours, no police interest. With dash cam footage it could well be different but that's not something I know about.
  • EssexExile
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    You've come onto an internet forum to settle a debate?  :D
    Tall, dark & handsome. Well two out of three ain't bad.
  • elsien
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    edited 24 January 2022 at 7:18PM
    You've come onto an internet forum to settle a debate?  :D
    I’m an optimist. Or deluded. One or the other. :smiley:

    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
  • eamon said:
    Some years ago I was in a 4 car shunt on a M Way. I was car number 2 & car No 4 was found to be at fault. Cars 3 & 4 had the most damage.
    I had something very similar, the cop taking our statement pretty much wrote the statement himself, nothing more was heard on the matter.
  • I know people that have brake checked others and taken no liability from the resulting crash.
    Sure, with no dash cam footage that could well happen. Even if the BMW behind is on your bumper and are at fault for not leaving space, if you brake check them and they crash or report you and have footage of you doing it, plod may well come and have a word with you and insurer might well be less favourable
    No, not could well happen, it's happened. No questions asked by either party insurers. Settled in less than 16hours, no police interest. With dash cam footage it could well be different but that's not something I know about.
    That's what I said, it could well happen that someone gets away with it. The number of cars with dash cams now though, means there is a very good chance that brake checking someone will be caught by the person behind or a witness
  • I know people that have brake checked others and taken no liability from the resulting crash.
    Sure, with no dash cam footage that could well happen. Even if the BMW behind is on your bumper and are at fault for not leaving space, if you brake check them and they crash or report you and have footage of you doing it, plod may well come and have a word with you and insurer might well be less favourable
    No, not could well happen, it's happened. No questions asked by either party insurers. Settled in less than 16hours, no police interest. With dash cam footage it could well be different but that's not something I know about.
    That's what I said, it could well happen that someone gets away with it. The number of cars with dash cams now though, means there is a very good chance that brake checking someone will be caught by the person behind or a witness
    It has happened, not could well.
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