is it OK to always use the rapid cycle on a dishwasher ?

getmore4less

mgfvvc said:

EssexExile said:

The Eco setting is only there to get the machine a A+++++++ rating, very few people actually use it. I use the 2hr wash because that works, neither the Eco program nor the quick program get really dirty things clean. You won't harm the dishwasher just using the quick wash.

The eco program on my Beko gets most things clean. I use the intensive for burnt on dirt, but even the intensive doesn't get the tea stains off the cups.

My beko has options to adjust some of the washes
Add dry cycle
Add intensive cycle(has an extra arm)
1/2 load
Fast.
...

Grey_Critic

My wife rinses everything before it goes in the dishwasher so it is the eco programme here - personally I actually like washing up the old fashioned way but am not allowed. When the first packed up after 12 years I was given 24 hours to find a new one. The new one is a Beko and touch wood it has only given trouble once, We are lucky and have a very friendly and cheap repair man.

Farway

mgfvvc said:

EssexExile said:

The Eco setting is only there to get the machine a A+++++++ rating, very few people actually use it. I use the 2hr wash because that works, neither the Eco program nor the quick program get really dirty things clean. You won't harm the dishwasher just using the quick wash.

The eco program on my Beko gets most things clean. I use the intensive for burnt on dirt, but even the intensive doesn't get the tea stains off the cups.

You may need to change the tablets. I find the cheaper ones just do not work for tea stains and have to use premium stuff like Platinum, usally there's an offer on somewhere

millie

I have a Zanussi that is 14 years old and use the eco setting for every wash. Used a hotter wash about 6 time and never had a problem.

Emmia

Farway said:

mgfvvc said:

EssexExile said:

The Eco setting is only there to get the machine a A+++++++ rating, very few people actually use it. I use the 2hr wash because that works, neither the Eco program nor the quick program get really dirty things clean. You won't harm the dishwasher just using the quick wash.

The eco program on my Beko gets most things clean. I use the intensive for burnt on dirt, but even the intensive doesn't get the tea stains off the cups.

You may need to change the tablets. I find the cheaper ones just do not work for tea stains and have to use premium stuff like Platinum, usally there's an offer on somewhere

I agree, fairy pod things or finish tablets (whichever is cheapest when we buy them) get the tea stains out, the waitrose tablets we've tried do not. 

Personally I like to do a hot run weekly.

cajef

We use the 'Quick 30 Min' wash daily on our Bosch slimline dishwasher 95% of the time, if you open the door as soon as it finishes the program steam comes out and the plates and cutlery are to hot to touch it is obviously much hotter than hand washing, we have to leave it to cool down for over half an hour before we can empty it, never had any problems with anything still dirty.

jon81uk

[Deleted User] said:

Personally I'm never happy with rapid or eco washes because of the hygiene aspect.

You need 65C minimum to be killing most bacteria**. Some bacteria will thrive at 45C so the typical eco wash at 50C doesn't feel adequate and some rapid washes only hit 35C depending on the model. Also the lack of drying on a rapid wash is equally an issue, leaving damp dishes in a warm humid environment is a breeding ground for bacteria.

Might not seem to be eco friendly but I always use the intensive 70C wash cycle on my dishwasher. It never clogs the filter or smells, my current Bosch is 10 years old and washes perfectly. 

Although not scientific research, all my friends report failed dishwashers much sooner than that, when I ask how they use it they all say eco/rapid and never use salt or rinse aid.


** https://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/Boiling_water_01_15.pdf

To be fair if you were handwashing you wouldn't be able to use water over 50C as your hands wouldn't take it.

Sandtree

[Deleted User] said:

Personally I'm never happy with rapid or eco washes because of the hygiene aspect.

You need 65C minimum to be killing most bacteria**. Some bacteria will thrive at 45C so the typical eco wash at 50C doesn't feel adequate and some rapid washes only hit 35C depending on the model. Also the lack of drying on a rapid wash is equally an issue, leaving damp dishes in a warm humid environment is a breeding ground for bacteria.

Might not seem to be eco friendly but I always use the intensive 70C wash cycle on my dishwasher. It never clogs the filter or smells, my current Bosch is 10 years old and washes perfectly. 

Although not scientific research, all my friends report failed dishwashers much sooner than that, when I ask how they use it they all say eco/rapid and never use salt or rinse aid.


** https://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/Boiling_water_01_15.pdf

You havent seen all the TV/news messaging about washing your hands in the last 2 years? Or are you washing your hands in 65C water @[Deleted User]?

65C is required to kill bacteria using temperature alone and a key considering if you are thinking about cooking or drinking water etc however when washing (dishes, clothes or hands) its normal to add detergent to the water and this in itself will kill pathogens thus not requiring such high temperatures... you can stop scalding your hands now!

spud17

Sandtree said:

[Deleted User] said:

Personally I'm never happy with rapid or eco washes because of the hygiene aspect.

You need 65C minimum to be killing most bacteria**. Some bacteria will thrive at 45C so the typical eco wash at 50C doesn't feel adequate and some rapid washes only hit 35C depending on the model. Also the lack of drying on a rapid wash is equally an issue, leaving damp dishes in a warm humid environment is a breeding ground for bacteria.

Might not seem to be eco friendly but I always use the intensive 70C wash cycle on my dishwasher. It never clogs the filter or smells, my current Bosch is 10 years old and washes perfectly. 

Although not scientific research, all my friends report failed dishwashers much sooner than that, when I ask how they use it they all say eco/rapid and never use salt or rinse aid.


** https://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/Boiling_water_01_15.pdf

You havent seen all the TV/news messaging about washing your hands in the last 2 years? Or are you washing your hands in 65C water @[Deleted User]?

65C is required to kill bacteria using temperature alone and a key considering if you are thinking about cooking or drinking water etc however when washing (dishes, clothes or hands) its normal to add detergent to the water and this in itself will kill pathogens thus not requiring such high temperatures... you can stop scalding your hands now!

30 minutes at 63C or 30 seconds at 73C if I remember correctly from my microbiology lectures all those years ago.
Definitely scalded hands time.
DO NOT TRY THIS!

coffeehound

Think soap kills viruses, but not necessarily bacteria.

I wonder about whether tablets/pods have enough time to dissolve properly in the quick cycles.  Think I would only use liquid detergent if using the short programmes