PiP change of circumstances

pickapennyup

Hi all,will try to be as clear as possible

i have been on pip for the last 7yrs due tho Bipolar/Atheritis/Diabetic and some orthe minor issues 
my last award was given till  August 2023 my rate went to Standared previously the higher rate and No mobility so im getting stand care till 2023
i was thinking of challenging but never did

so in November i had an emergency trip to the hospital for ten days it seems i had  large  blood clot and several small one's on /by heart /lungs
im at home and finding things more difficult and get breathless much more easily and other complaints

so can i ask for a change of circumstances will my pip stop if i ask for this?
im scared to do this as worried they may take existing award away?
is there still long waiting times?
is it the large form you complete for an renew?

any help would be wonderful

calcotti

For a change to make a difference you need to have had it for three months and expect it to continue for at least another 9 months. Are the additional difficulties you are experiencing expected to be long term?

Not all changes will make a difference to your entitlement. PIP is assessed on the difficulties you experience doing the specified activities. If you report a change you will have Tom complete a new fo4m and be reassessed. You therefore need to consider whether the changes could score you additional points and whether these would be sufficient to change your award.

https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/personal-independence-payment-pip/pip-points-system

https://pipinfo.net/#activities

pickapennyup

im guessing times vary

does my pip stop if i go ahead with a change of circunstances

thank you

poppy12345

No, your PIP doesn't stop if you report a change. Before reporting any changes you need to make 100% sure you can score more points for a higher aware.

Backlogs are huge at the moment and timescales are around 10 months from reporting changes to having a decision.You will likely need another assessment before a decision's made.

Alice_Holt

If you ask for a change of circumstances, your current award continues until a new decision is made following an assessment and you completing a new PIP 'How your disability affects you' form.
The award can stay the same, increase, or decrease. 

So, you have to be sure that the new conditions, and the additional difficulties these bring to the PIP activities, are likely to increase your current PIP award. 

The starting point is your current award - how many points you were awarded and for which activities / descriptors. 
12 points are needed for an enhanced award.
Then carefully go through the PIP criteria (linked to by calcotti) and see if you think any additional points should be awarded.  Do these additional points get you to 12 Daily Living points, or 8 mobility points?
If so, then start to get the medical / carers evidence to demonstrate this.
I would suggest that only when you have this in place that you apply for a superession (bearing in mind the time periods given by calcotti).

It would be very sensible to get accredited advice before you make the decision, and if you do proceed,  then do get help with the form.
https://www.disabilityrightsuk.org/links-organisations-giving-advice-benefits-care-and-debt
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/about-us/contact-us/contact-us/contact-us/
https://advicelocal.uk/


Here are some additional online resources:
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/pip/
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/985358/pip-assessment-guide-part-2-assessment-criteria.pdf


The key, as calcotti and poppy say, is to make sure the worsening / new conditions score sufficient additional points to increase your current award. 

pickapennyup

huge thank you all

well looks like i have a good few weeks to really see how my condition goes,a few hospital appointments to have also

peteuk

The only danger is although applying for assessment wont stop your PIP.  If when assessed you score less than 8/12 then your PIP will stop/reduce.  Obviously you have the right to challenge the outcome but as others have said, get evidence, review your potential score. 

[Deleted User]

I'm a bit dubious about reporting change of circumstances to the PIP people to be honest, knowing what a shambles they are.

I well remember our son getting zero points, then we had to go to tribunal and that took years before it got sorted. I don't want to have to report it then find out its back to square one.

Hes got Aspergers and used to really struggle - no doubt about that. However, he struggled through things and managed to cope better. He passed his driving test EVENTUALLY (that was a nightmare!) and hes now in college living away. Of course he still struggles, but hes got special allowances in college, got a special mentor etc, gets to stay in halls of residence even in 2nd year etc. Of course, hes never going to be "cured".

Really not sure what to do to be honest.....

born_again

[Deleted User] said:

I'm a bit dubious about reporting change of circumstances to the PIP people to be honest, knowing what a shambles they are.

I well remember our son getting zero points, then we had to go to tribunal and that took years before it got sorted. I don't want to have to report it then find out its back to square one.

Hes got Aspergers and used to really struggle - no doubt about that. However, he struggled through things and managed to cope better. He passed his driving test EVENTUALLY (that was a nightmare!) and hes now in college living away. Of course he still struggles, but hes got special allowances in college, got a special mentor etc, gets to stay in halls of residence even in 2nd year etc. Of course, hes never going to be "cured".

Really not sure what to do to be honest.....

In case anyone replies to this.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6500977/pip-change-of-circumstances#latest

peteuk

If your review date was Aug 2023, then your due a review and are probably in a queue somewhere for reassessment.  You can then report the new issues you have at review.  Not sure which will come first if you raise a change of condition, the change or review. 

Meanwhile your PIP will continue until your review.