Probation for internal job

bobblebob

How does a probationary period work with internal jobs? I thought there wasnt one. Im on a 6 month secondment (public sector so budget permitting should be made permanant) with a 6 month probation period. Guess if im not up to scratch at the end - with it being secondment - i go back to my old job

But what if the job was permanant. You could go from a secure job in 1 department to an internal new job and if you fail the probation your sacked?

Brie

As I understand it their ability to sack you depends on your entire length of service with them, not just in one particular role.  And I would have hoped that there was something in writing somewhere (change of contract?  HR policy guide?) that specifies how secondments might end.  Just as easy for you to be brilliant in the new role but no future funding so you have to go back to displace whomever has been brilliant in back filling your old role.  

TELLIT01

It's a question which needed to be asked before the secondment started, assuming you had been informed of the probationary period.  If you are talking about a permanent move between departments, or a permanent move to another job, where it was decided you aren't up to the job, I assume they would put you through the standard disciplinary process of discussion, Personal Improvement Plan, etc.

bobblebob

I wasnt told about a probation period so never asked. My old manager has told me before tho that internals dont have a probation period, as you already had this when you joined the company

theoretica

With my employer, if you fail probation you theoretically go back to your previous grade.  Don't think it has ever happened.  But they do seem to delay making a permanent appointment to backfill the role.

bobblebob

I have it in my new secondment contract that after the period i will return to my substantive role

bobblebob

Jillanddy said:

bobblebob said:

I have it in my new secondment contract that after the period i will return to my substantive role

 
So do I. Now it comes to it the council are arguing that my substantive role ceased to exist as part of the savings they had to make. And I know of this happening to others, and not just recently. In the end you have to decide what the risk is, but just because something is written down doesn't make it true....But trust them? No way. 

With it being in your contract dont you have some legal protection there from employment law? And if you cant go back to your old job dont they have to find you something else or make you redundant?

getmore4less

bobblebob said:

Jillanddy said:

bobblebob said:

I have it in my new secondment contract that after the period i will return to my substantive role

 
So do I. Now it comes to it the council are arguing that my substantive role ceased to exist as part of the savings they had to make. And I know of this happening to others, and not just recently. In the end you have to decide what the risk is, but just because something is written down doesn't make it true....But trust them? No way. 

With it being in your contract dont you have some legal protection there from employment law? And if you cant go back to your old job dont they have to find you something else or make you redundant?

Same protection if you had not moved or the job still exists but someone else is doing it.

It becomes a redundancy situation.

Ultimately bumping can be used to move employees around and pick who to loose.

There are rules on the process but you don't have special protection like someone returned from maternity.